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Re: Raspberry Pi vs. Beagle Bone Black

Mon Apr 29, 2013 4:55 pm

(to the tune of "American Pie"):

I've started singing bye, bye to my Raspberry Pi
The Beagle has been regal but the Black 'Bone is nigh
The Arduino's not between so, it's hanging out there to dry
And singing this'll be the day that I die
Oh, this'll be the day that I die

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Re: Raspberry Pi vs. Beagle Bone Black

Mon Apr 29, 2013 10:31 pm

(to the tune of "American Pie"):
That made laugh as I have been calling the device "American Pi".

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Re: Raspberry Pi vs. Beagle Bone Black

Tue Apr 30, 2013 12:00 am

The BBB looks pretty interesting to me, as someone contemplating a Pi. The only downsides I see are the single USB port, which can be mitigated with a USB hub, and the lower graphics performance. If it can still play 1080p then sweet. I hope someone cant test this puppy soon.

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Re: Raspberry Pi vs. Beagle Bone Black

Tue Apr 30, 2013 12:07 am

If it can still play 1080p then sweet.
It will NOT play 1080p.

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Re: Raspberry Pi vs. Beagle Bone Black

Tue Apr 30, 2013 12:08 am

Another thing i've discovered reading through the beaglebone black's manual is that a fair bit of the IO conflicts with the HDMI framer. So if you use HDMI then your IO availability is more limited.

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Re: Raspberry Pi vs. Beagle Bone Black

Tue Apr 30, 2013 6:32 am

plugwash wrote:Another thing i've discovered reading through the beaglebone black's manual is that a fair bit of the IO conflicts with the HDMI framer. So if you use HDMI then your IO availability is more limited.
Carefully worked around on the Pi by them not bringing all the SOC's I/O out to a GPIO pin. The Beagle board and the Beaglebone White don't have HDMI and the Black is 'more or less' compatible with them.

Farnell are saying 3rd of June until they get stock.
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Re: Raspberry Pi vs. Beagle Bone Black

Tue Apr 30, 2013 6:40 am

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plugwash wrote:Another thing i've discovered reading through the beaglebone black's manual is that a fair bit of the IO conflicts with the HDMI framer. So if you use HDMI then your IO availability is more limited.
Carefully worked around on the Pi by them not bringing all the SOC's I/O out to a GPIO pin. The Beagle board and the Beaglebone White don't have HDMI and the Black is 'more or less' compatible with them.

Farnell are saying 3rd of June until they get stock.
Actually, that's more of a cost implication - bringing out more GPIO would have needed more layers on the board (and a larger board), and therefor a lot more expense. And as we know, the cost was the main driver, not the number of GPIO's exported. I'd guess that the Pi and the BBB probably have a similar number of pins from the SOC actually connected, but the Raspi has more sophisticated peripherals attached, so less available for GPIO.
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Tue Apr 30, 2013 6:45 am

You work too hard James. I'm in insomniac mode, what's your excuse for posting on here at this unearthly hour ? ;)
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Tue Apr 30, 2013 6:58 am

pluggy wrote:You work too hard James. I'm in insomniac mode, what's your excuse for posting on here at this unearthly hour ? ;)
In a different time zone...and equipped with jet lag.
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Tue Apr 30, 2013 7:05 am

Where they dragged you off to ?
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Tue Apr 30, 2013 7:20 am

pluggy wrote:Where they dragged you off to ?
Put it like this, just North of here is a country run by a 'madman' with nuclear weapons and rockets. Who may or may not eat dog.
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Tue Apr 30, 2013 10:10 am

jamesh wrote:Put it like this, just North of here is a country run by a 'madman' with nuclear weapons and rockets. Who may or may not eat dog.
So you're in France?

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Re: Raspberry Pi vs. Beagle Bone Black

Tue Apr 30, 2013 10:12 am

You mean horse, surely.

No he borrowed a horse. Big difference.

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Tue Apr 30, 2013 10:21 am

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jamesh wrote:Put it like this, just North of here is a country run by a 'madman' with nuclear weapons and rockets. Who may or may not eat dog.
So you're in France?
Spain ? ;)
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Re: Raspberry Pi vs. Beagle Bone Black

Tue Apr 30, 2013 10:29 am

The BBB specification looks pretty good, it's not too expensive. Including the microcontroller engines sounds quite interesting for a few applications, as it can be used to avoid extra hardware or tricky, error-prone bit-banging.

But it doesn't have the community of the Pi. And if I was developing something on a larger scale (e.g. for education or something), I would be more confident about the potential continued availability of the Pi, even though the BBB is more than a year ahead.

Even if the foundation and its manufacturers stop making the Pi, plenty will be lying around on Ebay, because so many have already been sold.

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Tue Apr 30, 2013 10:36 am

MarkR wrote:The BBB specification looks pretty good, it's not too expensive. Including the microcontroller engines sounds quite interesting for a few applications, as it can be used to avoid extra hardware or tricky, error-prone bit-banging.

But it doesn't have the community of the Pi. And if I was developing something on a larger scale (e.g. for education or something), I would be more confident about the potential continued availability of the Pi, even though the BBB is more than a year ahead.

Even if the foundation and its manufacturers stop making the Pi, plenty will be lying around on Ebay, because so many have already been sold.
That's a good point I hadn't considered -the large number sold must have quite a bit of inertia.
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Tue Apr 30, 2013 11:50 am

RaTTuS wrote:
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jamesh wrote:Put it like this, just North of here is a country run by a 'madman' with nuclear weapons and rockets. Who may or may not eat dog.
So you're in France?
Spain ? ;)
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Tue Apr 30, 2013 12:25 pm

texy wrote:
RaTTuS wrote:
Burngate wrote: So you're in France?
Spain ? ;)
Mexico?
Snigger.
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Re: Raspberry Pi vs. Beagle Bone Black

Tue Apr 30, 2013 12:48 pm

MarkR wrote: But it doesn't have the community of the Pi. And if I was developing something on a larger scale (e.g. for education or something), I would be more confident about the potential continued availability of the Pi, even though the BBB is more than a year ahead.
To be fair circuitco don't seem to be in the habbit of discontinuing their boards. The classic beagleboard, beagleboard XM and white beaglebone are all still available. Occasionally there is a minor update to fix design bugs or increase ram but the same is true of the Pi.

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Tue Apr 30, 2013 12:49 pm

Getting towards bedtime I reckon James. :)
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Re: Raspberry Pi vs. Beagle Bone Black

Tue Apr 30, 2013 12:56 pm

I've been there too jamesh. I spent two months there in 2008, separated by a few weeks.

I tried dog, unknowingly. My hosts considered it some sort of honour to take their guests to a very expensive restaurant on the last day. They didn't however tell me, and I only found out a few months later when our in country rep' told me. I recall the meal was actually rather good, whether or not I should admit that I don't know.

Nothing changes there, more or less as soon as I arrived the north took pot shots at some southern fishing boats and lobbed a few missiles in an easterly direction.
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Re: Raspberry Pi vs. Beagle Bone Black

Tue Apr 30, 2013 3:44 pm

texy wrote:
RaTTuS wrote:
jamesh wrote:Put it like this, just North of here is a country run by a 'madman' with nuclear weapons and rockets. Who may or may not eat dog.
Spain ? ;)
Mexico?
That was gonna be my guess too.
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Re: Raspberry Pi vs. Beagle Bone Black

Tue Apr 30, 2013 3:47 pm

Careful - Guantanamo Bay is only a short jet flight away... :)

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Re: Raspberry Pi vs. Beagle Bone Black

Tue Apr 30, 2013 4:15 pm

I reckon he's in south korea.

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Re: Raspberry Pi vs. Beagle Bone Black

Tue Apr 30, 2013 4:22 pm

plugwash wrote:I reckon he's in south korea.
Duh, and I'd narrowed it down to the South Pole! :ugeek:

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