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Re: First comparison of the available distros running on a Pi

Wed Mar 14, 2012 9:38 am

http://www.designspark.com/con.....-pi-review

Interesting reading. This is the sort of practical, first hand info we need. Debian appears to be leading the field at the moment.

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Re: First comparison of the available distros running on a Pi

Wed Mar 14, 2012 9:41 am

Debian has been my distro of choice. Nice and quick, plus Quake 3 runs on it nicely

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Re: First comparison of the available distros running on a Pi

Wed Mar 14, 2012 9:46 am

Good to see this first comparison.

So for now the Archlinux are the more fast one, but stil not stable. And Debian are the second fast one, but more stable.

Anyway.. All will evolve for better, more stable and fast

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Re: First comparison of the available distros running on a Pi

Wed Mar 14, 2012 9:48 am

Debian has had a lot more dev effort put in to it of course (it's the internal Broadcom distro). I expect the others to catch up once community support really kicks in.

Nice article though.
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Re: First comparison of the available distros running on a Pi

Wed Mar 14, 2012 9:57 am

So, the elephant in the room is, why is Fedora the disto of choice?

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Re: First comparison of the available distros running on a Pi

Wed Mar 14, 2012 10:17 am

Grumpyoldgit said:


So, the elephant in the room is, why is Fedora the disto of choice?


I think Seneca College support Fedora remix for RasPi. And they are putting the education weight into the project. There are lots of students learning this way.

Sounds a good reason to choose them. I think its unfair to call today deadline day. Deadline is the educational release.

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Re: First comparison of the available distros running on a Pi

Wed Mar 14, 2012 10:31 am

For those of us who are and will remain pi-less for some months to come, it is interesting to see how the distros are performing in the real world. Linux user did a small distros comparison this month. It would be interesting for someone with a real Pi to make the distros jump through the same hoops.

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Re: First comparison of the available distros running on a Pi

Wed Mar 14, 2012 11:19 am

Nice article, thanks for finding and sharing.

Interesting that he feels that the Fedora Remix isn't really useable. I wonder what Chris Tyler would say ? Though of course they're still working on Fedora (Chris has mentioned an updated release with some R17 stuff back-ported). I also wonder what the writer's view of performance is based on, is it just the GUI responsiveness ? The instability that he mentions doesn't sound so good, though as James said, stuff like that is bound to rapidly improve.

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Re: First comparison of the available distros running on a Pi

Wed Mar 14, 2012 11:34 am

andytuk said:


Debian has been my distro of choice. Nice and quick, plus Quake 3 runs on it nicely


Do you think you could expand on that? It would be useful if you could do a thumbnail of each of the three,

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Re: First comparison of the available distros running on a Pi

Wed Mar 14, 2012 11:45 am

Grumpyoldgit said:


andytuk said:


Debian has been my distro of choice. Nice and quick, plus Quake 3 runs on it nicely


Do you think you could expand on that? It would be useful if you could do a thumbnail of each of the three,


If I can get more Pi time before I give it back on Sunday, I will do a quick overview.

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Re: First comparison of the available distros running on a Pi

Wed Mar 14, 2012 1:43 pm

Andytuk
Can you try another desktop on Archlinux, please. Libpng broke a few things.
Xfce is good. It"s not easy being the only one running that distro with a pi, finding and reporting problems, hopefully quite a few will try and stick with arch in the future.
Remember that arch is using versions that other distros, in time, will use, we are just finding problems in advance for them. In real life I can quite honestly say the problems are rare and usually fixed in a day.
I will try and get quake on arch running

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Re: First comparison of the available distros running on a Pi

Wed Mar 14, 2012 1:48 pm

A good article - I hope the Fedora remix is improved before we get the Pi's as I was planning to use it - otherwise I'll probably go with Debian as it is the closest to Ubuntu I think which is what I have used before.

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Re: First comparison of the available distros running on a Pi

Fri Mar 16, 2012 1:35 pm

The problem the RS guy had with gpicview in archlinuxarm has been fixed.

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Re: First comparison of the available distros running on a Pi

Fri Mar 16, 2012 3:00 pm

pepedog said:


The problem the RS guy had with gpicview in archlinuxarm has been fixed.



progress

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Re: First comparison of the available distros running on a Pi

Fri Mar 16, 2012 3:25 pm

I suspect that the ArchLinuxArm problem will have been due to the rolling release (bleeding-edge package) style of the distribution; possibly not specific to the Pi. I'm keen to try it out - especially if it's the fastest and gives you the freedom to only install what you need rather than removing a load of packages.

I am a Debian man though so will happily fall back to that. Especially if it plays Quake 3 :) It's interesting to try something new once in a while though and the Pi is a great platform for that.

Great review Andy!

Cheers,

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Re: First comparison of the available distros running on a Pi

Fri Mar 16, 2012 5:35 pm

It was a libpng upgrade did it, and a few packages never had them as depends (kinda explained to me that way, plus some other words to explain why x86 arch was never affected). kde on arch is not the slouch you would expect it to be.

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Re: First comparison of the available distros running on a Pi

Fri Mar 16, 2012 5:44 pm

Thanks for that dave

I guess the main rule with Arch is only upgrade when you have spare time to fix a possible issue, or check the packages being updated and wait if something big is being updated.

Still a good choice if it's the fastest, especially for headless operation imo.

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Re: First comparison of the available distros running on a Pi

Fri Mar 16, 2012 8:18 pm

Nice little read, no surprise Arch is the fastest, but it would have been good if he said how long Arch takes to boot into the GUI as well.

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Re: First comparison of the available distros running on a Pi

Fri Mar 16, 2012 9:45 pm

Nice little read, no surprise Arch is the fastest, but it would have been good if he said how long Arch takes to boot into the GUI as well.

About 6 seconds
Midori about 8

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Re: First comparison of the available distros running on a Pi

Sat Mar 17, 2012 12:48 pm

pepedog said:


About 6 seconds
Midori about 8



wow - that is fast

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Re: First comparison of the available distros running on a Pi

Sat Mar 17, 2012 2:18 pm

I disagree with RS guy times though

About 24 seconds to prompt (about 5 of which is aquiring ip address)

These are the services starting

syslog-ng network openntpd netfs crond sshd webmin bluetooth dbus avahi-daemon

A DVB stick is plugged in too

6 seconds to lxde started and settled

8 seconds to midori with google loaded

pacman -S qtcreator qt-private-headers

17 seconds for qt creator to load

You should know that apart from /boot on a 32Mb card, rest is on a hard drive so a little lag while spin up.

pacman -S monodevelop

77 seconds to load (maybe should have rebooted before trying that?)

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