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Wed Feb 27, 2013 10:33 pm

I saw this on cnn.com .. code.org .. a non profit to expose kids to programming .. did not see any mention of raspberrypi.org so I left them a message .. I think raspberrypi.org is way ahead of them .. but at least they see the need for kids to start creating instead of consuming!

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Re: code.org

Thu Feb 28, 2013 8:57 am

Note Code.org's first Facebook timeline entry:

Founded on August 24, 2012
In Bellevue, Washington

A coincidence that this is eight miles from the home of Microsoft in Redmond, and was founded right about the time that the last of the Pi orders from Launch Day on February 29, 2012, were filled? I don't think so.

Read the novel "Microserfs" to get an accurate portrayal of what it's like to work at Microsoft as a junior software developer. It's based on interviews with people who were initially excited to go to work there, but eventually realized that only the first 20% of the employees who had been hired would ever make serious money beyond the typical $35K starting salary paid to people just graduating with a CS degree. Particularly recommended are the "flat food" and "corner cutting legend" segments in the book.

MS, Facebook, and other Usual Suspects need more cheap employees and back efforts to eliminate immigration barriers to keep their employees' salaries artificially low. Note all of the politicians quoted on their home page - that is in no way a coincidence. Marissa Mayer, recently-hired CEO of Yahoo, just ordered that telecommuting be ended for all employees ... while she had a nursery for her infant built adjacent to her office (the limo commute from her top-floor San Francisco condo is just soooo stressful, you know, as well as trips to the bank to check on deposits of the installments for her five-year, $117,000,000 pay deal).
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Re: code.org

Thu Feb 28, 2013 9:03 am

Jim Manley wrote:Note Code.org's first Facebook timeline entry:

Founded on August 24, 2012
In Bellevue, Washington

A coincidence that this is eight miles from the home of Microsoft in Redmond, and was founded right about the time that the initial Pi orders from Launch Day were filled? I don't think so.
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Re: code.org

Thu Feb 28, 2013 9:10 am

A coincidence that this is eight miles from the home of Microsoft in Redmond, and was founded right about the time that the initial Pi orders from Launch Day were filled? I don't think so.
I don't get it. What is the conspiracy theory there?

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Re: code.org

Thu Feb 28, 2013 9:39 am

OtherCrashOverride wrote:I don't get it. What is the conspiracy theory there?
No one lives and works in the vicinity of Redmond unless they're constrained by family (like, say, in order to stay near their kids for whom they don't have custody) or love living, driving (well, when the traffic moves at all on the completely inadequate 1960s-built highways), and otherwise dealing with the average five inches of rain per month, in the average 50-degree chill (wool clothing not optional). The employees at the MS Silicon Valley campus who came from highly-successful acquired companies that created blockbuster products like PowerPoint, Halo, etc., have a stipulation in their employment contracts with MS that they will never have to move to Redmond, and it's not just because of the weather, if you get my drift.

A friend who worked there pointed out how MS could save a lot of money in networking costs, but when it was discovered that included eliminating the jobs of mid and upper-level managers and executives, his computer at work was mysteriously reported by an anonymous source to have porn on it. When the police investigated, they were able to determine through digital forensics that it was a sloppy inside attempt to smear him and they advised him that he should take a lucrative settlement in exchange for his official silence based on their past experience in such matters.

Oh, did I mention the multiple consent decrees and convictions for abuse of monopoly power to crush competition? Nawwww, they're perfectly harmless up there. As Bullwinkle has often found when reaching into his top hat, the critters pulled out are not very cuddly.
The best things in life aren't things ... but, a Pi comes pretty darned close! :D
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Re: code.org

Thu Feb 28, 2013 9:47 am

What is the implication of the correlation to the second part of the statement: "was founded right about the time initial Pi orders from Launch Day were filled"? I was not part of the community at that time.

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Re: code.org

Thu Feb 28, 2013 10:57 am

OtherCrashOverride wrote:What is the implication of the correlation to the second part of the statement: "was founded right about the time initial Pi orders from Launch Day were filled"? I was not part of the community at that time.
That's when it became clear to for-profit companies that the Pi was an actual product that people could finally order and obtain delivery of single quantities within a week or so. Up until then, the Pi (and by extension, the Foundation's reputation) was considered variously by many to be vaporware, available only after an interminable wait, incapable of running significant software, overhyped (ironically by tech media, and not the Foundation), and lots of other nasty things. Meanwhile, long before Code.org existed, there had been efforts going on by many non-profit organizations to achieve what Code.org has hitched its wagon to parade-wise. Why aren't Code.org contributors just directly funding those ogranizations, providing the network infrastructure, computing equipment, software, tools, volunteer software professionals, etc., that are desperately needed?

Our local Coder Dojo has been teetering on the brink of being evicted every month for years and has only stayed open due to Herculean efforts by volunteers to beg, borrow, and do everything but steal the money and resources needed to achieve their goals. Hackspaces aren't located anywhere near schools where they belong, which is saying a lot since schools outside of suburban tract developments are typically in the lowest-rent areas. I'm talking about Silicon Valley and the greater San Francisco Bay area, not where 99.999% of the rest of the school-age population lives. I can't imagine what the challenges must be for rural places like the middle of Nowhere, Oklahoma.

BTW, the only mention of the Pi on their FB timeline is when the Minecraft port became available. Not exactly about the Foundation's goals of educating students (of all ages, it turns out) in computing principles, is it? Where is a quote from Eben on the Code.org home page? Still convinced that they're not really interested in what the Pi and Foundation are bringing to the world? Let's see if dliloch's message posted to them about the Pi generates any more interest.
The best things in life aren't things ... but, a Pi comes pretty darned close! :D
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