bls wrote: ↑
Fri Nov 27, 2020 5:56 pm
My experience has been exactly the opposite. I started running it earlier this year, and have NEVER had a problem with it. I just checked the stats page, and it claims to have served 2.2GB, while only downloading 370MB. These are not lifetime stats...when I have gone through periods of multiple SD Card rebuilds I've seen well over 6GB served with only a few hundred MB downloaded.
Since one thread of this discussion has gone into "this is how long it takes for me", thought I'd throw this in, and then a few thoughts on software distribution.
I downloaded the 08-20 IMG files when they were released. Today I took a nice virgin 08-20 Lite IMG file, installed my customizations, and upgraded RasPiOS (via my apt-ng-cacher). Here are some numbers:
- 3 Minutes: Total time to customize AND apt upgrade the IMG file copy to the latest
- 3 Minutes: Burn to a not-very-fast SD Card (this was a 3.8GB Lite image, so a Full would probably be 6-8 minutes)
- 3 Minutes: Complete the system first boot
If I want to build a new system for another one of my Pi fleet, I only need to burn a new SD card.
Oh, and each system comes up with latest RasPiOS updates installed, passwords set, ssh and wpa configured, and hostname, keymap, locale, and timezone set.
Sadly, this doesn't help most new users, but a subset of those users, the Linux literate guys, don't really have an excuse for not being ready to go when their newly-ordered Pi shows up. They can at least have the IMG downloaded and know how to write the SD Card, and even as above if they want.
The current RasPiOS distribution and update model isn't optimal for everyone. If a new distribution/update model were to magically show up, chances are that it wouldnt' be optimal for everyone either. But the current model works. Compare it to Windows (updates when IT wants, not when you want), XBox (already mentioned), iOS, MacOS...they all have very opaque update procedures, and they all download a bunch of stuff, whether you want them to or not.
At least with RasPiOS you can download new versions when you want, download and install updates when you want...or not. Sure, it could be better by having more frequent OS releases, but there's a real cost to that. I don't know about you, but I'd be pretty unhappy if the RasPiOS team made the tradeoff to fix OP's concerns, and put resources towards that instead of new features (graphics, 64-bit support, everyone's wishlist items). I'd also be pretty darn unhappy if the RasPiOS quality degraded due to less testing.
The current update situation works. Not optimally for everyone, but it works.
Figure out how to make it work best for you.