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Is this possible to boot the raspberry pi B+ model using USB drive?

Tue Jun 16, 2020 1:02 pm

I have found that since the release of the Raspberry Pi 3, new Pis have been able to boot from a USB but is it possible for the raspberry pi B+ model?
If yes then what i need to do to boot up raspberry pi B+ model using USB drive?

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Re: Is this possible to boot the raspberry pi B+ model using USB drive?

Tue Jun 16, 2020 1:16 pm

For starters a USB drive
Then a psu rated 5v 2.4A ( use any phone charger at your own risk)
Then flash RPiOS to the USB drive
Connect other computer peripherals of your choice
Power up the setup. It should boot from the USB drive
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Re: Is this possible to boot the raspberry pi B+ model using USB drive?

Tue Jun 16, 2020 1:50 pm

I don't believe there is any way to directly boot a Pi B+ using only a USB drive. As I recall it needs an SD Card to be fitted with the required software installed to facilitate the USB device booting.

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Re: Is this possible to boot the raspberry pi B+ model using USB drive?

Tue Jun 16, 2020 2:01 pm

3B+ can, 4B+ is on it way and is currently very promising in beta

https://www.raspberrypi.org/documentati ... des/msd.md

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Re: Is this possible to boot the raspberry pi B+ model using USB drive?

Tue Jun 16, 2020 2:13 pm

Abhishek533 wrote:
Tue Jun 16, 2020 1:02 pm
I have found that since the release of the Raspberry Pi 3, new Pis have been able to boot from a USB but is it possible for the raspberry pi B+ model?
If yes then what i need to do to boot up raspberry pi B+ model using USB drive?

Just to be clear are you refering to the BCM2835 Raspberry Pi 1 model B+ ??

https://www.raspberrypi.org/products/ra ... el-b-plus/

If so then it does not support booting from a MSD, which is actually covered in the Help Section:

https://www.raspberrypi.org/documentati ... /README.md
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Re: Is this possible to boot the raspberry pi B+ model using USB drive?

Tue Jun 16, 2020 4:15 pm

pidd wrote:
Tue Jun 16, 2020 2:01 pm
3B+ can, 4B+ is on it way and is currently very promising in beta

https://www.raspberrypi.org/documentati ... des/msd.md
Pi3B and Pi2Bv1.2 can have the OTP bit set and then be booted directly from a USB mass storage device (MSD), such as a USB stick.

Pi2Bv1.1 (BCM2836) and prior (BCM2835) cannot.

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Re: Is this possible to boot the raspberry pi B+ model using USB drive?

Tue Jun 16, 2020 5:54 pm

Abhishek533 wrote:
Tue Jun 16, 2020 1:02 pm
I have found that since the release of the Raspberry Pi 3, new Pis have been able to boot from a USB but is it possible for the raspberry pi B+ model?
If yes then what i need to do to boot up raspberry pi B+ model using USB drive?

Running Raspbian from USB Devices : Made Easy works with ALL Raspberry Pi models.

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Re: Is this possible to boot the raspberry pi B+ model using USB drive?

Tue Jun 16, 2020 6:46 pm

pidd wrote:
Tue Jun 16, 2020 2:01 pm
3B+ can, 4B+ is on it way and is currently very promising in beta
There is no 4B+ model. :x

Abhishek533 wrote:
Tue Jun 16, 2020 1:02 pm
I have found that since the release of the Raspberry Pi 3, new Pis have been able to boot from a USB but is it possible for the raspberry pi B+ model?
The 3B can, but it needs to have a special OTP bit set to enable USB booting.
The 2Bv1.2 can, but may require setting the OTP bit (like the 3B).
The 3B+ is the only model that can boot from USB right out of the box (at this time).
The 4B has USB boot in beta testing now (hopefully it will be released to the stable channel soon).

Abhishek533 wrote:
Tue Jun 16, 2020 1:02 pm
If yes then what i need to do to boot up raspberry pi B+ model using USB drive?
If you are referring to the old Pi1 model B+ then, no, it will not boot directly from USB. Models other than those mentioned above require a FAT32 formatted SD card with the bootcode.bin file on it.

To boot older models from USB you would write a recent Raspbian/Raspberry Pi OS image to the USB drive, then copy just the bootcode.bin file from the USB drive's "boot" partition to a FAT32 formatted SD card. With that card in the system, and the USB drive connected, it should boot from USB when powered up.

Note that USB booting is not compatible with all USB mass storage devices. Most will work. Some will cold boot but not reboot. Some won't work at all. Hard drives can be particularly problematic because of their high power requirements and long spin-up times. If you have trouble with one USB drive, make sure your OS is fully up-to-date, and if that doesn't help, try a different USB drive.
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Re: Is this possible to boot the raspberry pi B+ model using USB drive?

Tue Jun 16, 2020 7:07 pm

HawaiianPi wrote:
Tue Jun 16, 2020 6:46 pm
There is no 4B+ model. :x
;)

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Re: Is this possible to boot the raspberry pi B+ model using USB drive?

Tue Jun 16, 2020 7:41 pm

All this confusion over Raspberry Pi models is making my brain ache!

As a nod to Debian, please can future models be given real names? I suggest characters from great works of English fiction.

Pooh, Piglet, Eeyore, Kanga, Roo, Tigger, Rabbit, Owl
Or avoiding any question of copyright: Peaseblossom, Cobweb, Moth, Mustardseed, Oberon, Titania, Puck

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Re: Is this possible to boot the raspberry pi B+ model using USB drive?

Tue Jun 16, 2020 8:31 pm

jbudd wrote:
Tue Jun 16, 2020 7:41 pm
As a nod to Debian, please can future models be given real names? I suggest characters from great works of English fiction.
I hate names being used where the alphabetical order doesn't follow the released version no matter where they come from.

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Re: Is this possible to boot the raspberry pi B+ model using USB drive?

Tue Jun 16, 2020 9:26 pm

jbudd wrote:
Tue Jun 16, 2020 7:41 pm
All this confusion over Raspberry Pi models is making my brain ache!

As a nod to Debian, please can future models be given real names? I suggest characters from great works of English fiction.

Pooh, Piglet, Eeyore, Kanga, Roo, Tigger, Rabbit, Owl
Or avoiding any question of copyright: Peaseblossom, Cobweb, Moth, Mustardseed, Oberon, Titania, Puck
I dunno... The sequence is pretty easy to keep track of, with the aside of the Pi0/Pi0W/Pi0WH, which are (respectively) the base version, same with added WiFi capability, and the installing header pins at the factory. In terms of SoC, they are all generation one boards, despite the '0' in the designations.

Generation one: Model B, Model A. Improved generation one: B+ and A+. These can also be described as Pi1B, Pi1A, Pi1B+ and Pi1A+.

Generation two: Pi2B. With the discontinuation of the BCM2836 SoC, the original becomes the Pi2Bv1.1 and BCM2837 version (a cut down generation three) is the Pi2Bv1.2

Generation three: Pi3B, Pi3B+ (flipped over SoC with heat spreader, since applied to the Pi3B and Pi3A+), and the Pi3A+.

Generation four: Pi4B in 4 varieties distinguished by RAM: 1GB (since relegated to industrial use only), 2GB, 4GB and 8GB. Minor board revisions give v1.1 and v1.2 variants for 2GB and 4GB, with the 8GB having it's own variant, v1.4.

Compute Modules parallel the main generational pattern with the CM, CM3, and CM3+. All three having a "Lite" version with no eMMC flash on the board. The last having several variants with different amounts of eMMC flash supplied at the factory.

So it really comes down to generation (with gen 1 being implicit) and a '+' where there has been a major revision within generation. The odd one out being the Pi2B where the major revision (change of SoC) is a point release number. The Pi2Bv1.2 almost ought to be called something like a Pi3B- or Pi3BnW.

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