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rpi-imager on raspbian

Mon May 25, 2020 8:08 pm

So I installed the rpi-imager from the downloads section on this site and installed it with the command

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sudo apt install /path/to/file.deb 
and found out its a program you can just install with the sudo apt install rpi-imager

I have the tool running but haven't tested it because I haven't got anything to test *yet*.

Does this work on a raspberry pi this tool, has anyone tried

Also there the pic is the tool running on my rpi4b

All of the tabs choices work but I am not willing to format my usb in my pi as it has data and I can't find a spare to test

TL:DR does the imager from the pi website work on raspberry pi to create another sd card to boot from
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Re: rpi-imager on raspbian

Mon May 25, 2020 10:52 pm

Bump
Running Raspberry Pi OS Full, therefore my comments will be based on that
Using RPI-4B 4GB at 2GHz CPU and 700MHz GPU
don't format your sd because someone said so.
Or put your favourite cutlery into your nearest outlet (May result in death) ;)

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Re: rpi-imager on raspbian

Mon May 25, 2020 11:34 pm

RaspbianUser1 wrote:
Mon May 25, 2020 8:08 pm
TL:DR does the imager from the pi website work on raspberry pi to create another sd card to boot from
Don't see why it wouldn't, but why didn't you just give it a try and answer your own question?

Anyway... yes, it does work, and it's pretty fast on a Pi4's USB 3.0 port. I didn't time it, compared to my Win10 laptop, but it felt similar in an armchair sort of measurement (meaning, it's probably not the same, but it's close enough that you may not notice).
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Re: rpi-imager on raspbian

Tue May 26, 2020 12:10 am

yes it works i use it all the time.
i install from apt, it's in the repo.

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sudo apt install rpi-imager

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Re: rpi-imager on raspbian

Tue May 26, 2020 12:37 am

Thanks, bigger thanks for testing it, getting new microsd card and usb adapter and just wanted to know if I could use it on the pi without external other PC
Running Raspberry Pi OS Full, therefore my comments will be based on that
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don't format your sd because someone said so.
Or put your favourite cutlery into your nearest outlet (May result in death) ;)

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Re: rpi-imager on raspbian

Tue May 26, 2020 2:04 am

RaspbianUser1 wrote:
Tue May 26, 2020 12:37 am
Thanks, bigger thanks for testing it, getting new microsd card and usb adapter and just wanted to know if I could use it on the pi without external other PC
yes, that's its purpose.
i recommend if using it often, to just download the raspbian versions your going to use. on the bottom you select custom then select what you have downloaded, much faster than downloading every time.

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Re: rpi-imager on raspbian

Tue May 26, 2020 3:06 am

kerry_s wrote:
Tue May 26, 2020 2:04 am
RaspbianUser1 wrote:
Tue May 26, 2020 12:37 am
Thanks, bigger thanks for testing it, getting new microsd card and usb adapter and just wanted to know if I could use it on the pi without external other PC
yes, that's its purpose.
i recommend if using it often, to just download the raspbian versions your going to use. on the bottom you select custom then select what you have downloaded, much faster than downloading every time.
Yep might use the spare sd card for messing around with raspbian, with no consequences
Running Raspberry Pi OS Full, therefore my comments will be based on that
Using RPI-4B 4GB at 2GHz CPU and 700MHz GPU
don't format your sd because someone said so.
Or put your favourite cutlery into your nearest outlet (May result in death) ;)

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Re: rpi-imager on raspbian

Tue May 26, 2020 7:42 am

RaspbianUser1 wrote:
Tue May 26, 2020 3:06 am
kerry_s wrote:
Tue May 26, 2020 2:04 am
RaspbianUser1 wrote:
Tue May 26, 2020 12:37 am
Thanks, bigger thanks for testing it, getting new microsd card and usb adapter and just wanted to know if I could use it on the pi without external other PC
yes, that's its purpose.
i recommend if using it often, to just download the raspbian versions your going to use. on the bottom you select custom then select what you have downloaded, much faster than downloading every time.
Yep might use the spare sd card for messing around with raspbian, with no consequences
FWIW, I've been using it for quite some time on a "dedicated" P3A+:
https://www.cpmspectrepi.uk/raspberry_p ... Aplus.html
Trev.
Still running Raspbian Jessie or Stretch on some older Pi's (an A, B1, 2xB2, B+, P2B, 3xP0, P0W, 2xP3A+, P3B+, P3B, B+, and a A+) but Buster on the P4B's. See: https://www.cpmspectrepi.uk/raspberry_pi/raspiidx.htm

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Re: rpi-imager on raspbian

Tue May 26, 2020 12:05 pm

kerry_s wrote:
Tue May 26, 2020 2:04 am
RaspbianUser1 wrote:
Tue May 26, 2020 12:37 am
Thanks, bigger thanks for testing it, getting new microsd card and usb adapter and just wanted to know if I could use it on the pi without external other PC
yes, that's its purpose.
i recommend if using it often, to just download the raspbian versions your going to use. on the bottom you select custom then select what you have downloaded, much faster than downloading every time.
You should not need to do that. It will cache downloaded files, so if there is no change to the upstream version it won't download again, it will just use the cached copy.
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Re: rpi-imager on raspbian

Tue May 26, 2020 1:47 pm

jamesh wrote:
Tue May 26, 2020 12:05 pm
kerry_s wrote:
Tue May 26, 2020 2:04 am
RaspbianUser1 wrote:
Tue May 26, 2020 12:37 am
Thanks, bigger thanks for testing it, getting new microsd card and usb adapter and just wanted to know if I could use it on the pi without external other PC
yes, that's its purpose.
i recommend if using it often, to just download the raspbian versions your going to use. on the bottom you select custom then select what you have downloaded, much faster than downloading every time.
You should not need to do that. It will cache downloaded files, so if there is no change to the upstream version it won't download again, it will just use the cached copy.
It only caches one image, so if you download more than one image you will end up downloading them again when you switch from one to the other. I use the same system kerry_s described and it saves having to re-download the images.

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Re: rpi-imager on raspbian

Tue May 26, 2020 2:01 pm

Actually It runs better than balena etcher on my raspberry pi 4 4GB model as an x86 application being emulated by box86

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Re: rpi-imager on raspbian

Tue May 26, 2020 2:03 pm

andrum99 wrote:
Tue May 26, 2020 1:47 pm
jamesh wrote:
Tue May 26, 2020 12:05 pm
kerry_s wrote:
Tue May 26, 2020 2:04 am


yes, that's its purpose.
i recommend if using it often, to just download the raspbian versions your going to use. on the bottom you select custom then select what you have downloaded, much faster than downloading every time.
You should not need to do that. It will cache downloaded files, so if there is no change to the upstream version it won't download again, it will just use the cached copy.
It only caches one image, so if you download more than one image you will end up downloading them again when you switch from one to the other. I use the same system kerry_s described and it saves having to re-download the images.
Really? I'll see if that can be fixed up. Although there might be a reason why it does that.
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Re: rpi-imager on raspbian

Tue May 26, 2020 2:22 pm

jamesh wrote:
Tue May 26, 2020 2:03 pm
andrum99 wrote:
Tue May 26, 2020 1:47 pm
jamesh wrote:
Tue May 26, 2020 12:05 pm


You should not need to do that. It will cache downloaded files, so if there is no change to the upstream version it won't download again, it will just use the cached copy.
It only caches one image, so if you download more than one image you will end up downloading them again when you switch from one to the other. I use the same system kerry_s described and it saves having to re-download the images.
Really? I'll see if that can be fixed up. Although there might be a reason why it does that.
Yes, indeed that is the case, and it also only caches if there is 5GB (after download) of extra space.
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Re: rpi-imager on raspbian

Tue May 26, 2020 3:26 pm

jamesh wrote:
Tue May 26, 2020 2:22 pm
jamesh wrote:
Tue May 26, 2020 2:03 pm
andrum99 wrote:
Tue May 26, 2020 1:47 pm

It only caches one image, so if you download more than one image you will end up downloading them again when you switch from one to the other. I use the same system kerry_s described and it saves having to re-download the images.
Really? I'll see if that can be fixed up. Although there might be a reason why it does that.
Yes, indeed that is the case, and it also only caches if there is 5GB (after download) of extra space.
That wasn't a complaint from me by the way. I think the current caching arrangement is correct. If Imager was to cache more than one image, you would want some extra logic to help it manage disk space, and probably some extra UI as well. I'm not sure that would be justified, given the idea is to have a tool that is as easy-to-use as possible.

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Re: rpi-imager on raspbian

Tue May 26, 2020 4:37 pm

andrum99 wrote:
Tue May 26, 2020 3:26 pm
jamesh wrote:
Tue May 26, 2020 2:22 pm
jamesh wrote:
Tue May 26, 2020 2:03 pm


Really? I'll see if that can be fixed up. Although there might be a reason why it does that.
Yes, indeed that is the case, and it also only caches if there is 5GB (after download) of extra space.
That wasn't a complaint from me by the way. I think the current caching arrangement is correct. If Imager was to cache more than one image, you would want some extra logic to help it manage disk space, and probably some extra UI as well. I'm not sure that would be justified, given the idea is to have a tool that is as easy-to-use as possible.
This is one of the main reasons why it is as it is - to reduce complexity for first time users.
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Re: rpi-imager on raspbian

Tue May 26, 2020 7:31 pm

rpi-imager on my pi is a home run.

When I saw the news about the imager for other oses I was not interested. Etcher was enough on Windows or Mac.

I discovered that it was available in Raspbian while playing with some images per the custom burn-n boot thread. Using rpi-imager on my pi has completed my pi ecosystem for any and all binary distros.

If you know why you need the last option, you know. Keep it simple.

Thanks.

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