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Re: Pi Zero Availability

Fri Mar 06, 2020 5:34 pm

gizmo1990 wrote:
Fri Mar 06, 2020 5:13 pm
jamesh wrote:
Wed Mar 04, 2020 8:14 am
The pi4 is the best product!
Your sales and stock shortages seem to suggest otherwise! ;)

The Pi4 is awesome, but stacked against the Zero's price/performance/size, I'd say that is the Foundation's greatest creation, imo of course. :)

Anyway, I'm looking forward to when these come in so I can get on with my project. One other relavent question here, will big retailers (Pimoroni etc) be told to restrict purchases to single or x amounts? The thought of having to go to multiple retailers and pay postage x times would be really annoying.


Is there any reason to doubt the information from a Moderator and RPF/T staff member supplied here - viewtopic.php?f=63&t=188011#p1184894

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Re: Pi Zero Availability

Fri Mar 06, 2020 10:39 pm

gizmo1990 wrote:
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jamesh wrote:
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Sat Feb 29, 2020 12:16 pm


An impending update has been mooted before. It would obviously be fantastic but I wouldn't get my hopes up, even with Raspberry's legendary ability to keep these things secret. I'd also question the ability to supply demand of any newer version, given the Zeros past and present shortages. You'd probably have to sign up for Rolex like waiting lists!

It's so odd. They have a fantastic product. I truly believe the Zero is still their best product, bar the original Pi. Tiny form factor, cheap with 'just enough' power is everything. But they just seem unwilling to really get behind the product.
Odd thing to say when we have sold multiple millions of them. The ZeroWh should be widely available. Currently waiting for info on what the holdup is.
If you mean my comment about not getting behind the product, then that's because that is how it seems from the outside, I'm afraid. When was it first released, 2015/16? Since that period I've had stock issues every time I've tried to buy one. I'm up to about 5 now and probably purchased them fairly spread out, one at a time.

If there's unprecedented demand, I can understand why. Like I said, I believe the Zero to be, by some margin, Raspberry's best product. It's fantastic. Its community is fantastic. But to have a near 5 year old product still have (it seems to me at least) constant stock shortages, points to an issue somewhere? If margins are too slight to meet such demand, then maybe add a quid etc onto it. It would still be exceptional value and perhaps allow Raspberry to invest in bigger runs to satisfy demand?

Anyway, I'm glad to hear there will be a big delivery soon. Funds allowing, I'm likely going to buy at least an extra one or two though, so that I'm not in this situation again. And I surely won't be the only one, given the history of shortages. And that's annoying because I would presume that might bring about another shortage! Gah! :(
hi gizmo1990,

You need to understand the realities of life.

A "successful" company already knows where to focus their resources.

They will not be listening to someone that says "Funds allowing, I'm likely going to buy at least an extra one or two though". The "possibility" of a couple of dollars profit is not going to have any sway.

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Sat Mar 07, 2020 7:11 am

Sad but true. When you have customers buying batches of 10k or 20k, individuals sales do seem insignificant. However, we do try to treat all customers in the same way, whatever the sales volumes.
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Re: Pi Zero Availability

Sat Mar 07, 2020 6:30 pm

Greg Erskine wrote:
Fri Mar 06, 2020 10:39 pm
gizmo1990 wrote:
Wed Mar 04, 2020 12:02 am
jamesh wrote:
Sun Mar 01, 2020 7:47 am


Odd thing to say when we have sold multiple millions of them. The ZeroWh should be widely available. Currently waiting for info on what the holdup is.
If you mean my comment about not getting behind the product, then that's because that is how it seems from the outside, I'm afraid. When was it first released, 2015/16? Since that period I've had stock issues every time I've tried to buy one. I'm up to about 5 now and probably purchased them fairly spread out, one at a time.

If there's unprecedented demand, I can understand why. Like I said, I believe the Zero to be, by some margin, Raspberry's best product. It's fantastic. Its community is fantastic. But to have a near 5 year old product still have (it seems to me at least) constant stock shortages, points to an issue somewhere? If margins are too slight to meet such demand, then maybe add a quid etc onto it. It would still be exceptional value and perhaps allow Raspberry to invest in bigger runs to satisfy demand?

Anyway, I'm glad to hear there will be a big delivery soon. Funds allowing, I'm likely going to buy at least an extra one or two though, so that I'm not in this situation again. And I surely won't be the only one, given the history of shortages. And that's annoying because I would presume that might bring about another shortage! Gah! :(
hi gizmo1990,

You need to understand the realities of life.

A "successful" company already knows where to focus their resources.

They will not be listening to someone that says "Funds allowing, I'm likely going to buy at least an extra one or two though". The "possibility" of a couple of dollars profit is not going to have any sway.

regards
Greg
Hi!
I was simply stating that given the constant stock shortages, many other individuals or groups who were only going to buy one, might now consider buying X amount. Extrapolate that out world wide and it very quickly becomes a big number.

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Re: Pi Zero Availability

Sat Mar 07, 2020 8:15 pm

I've stated above that the Zero ha had some very big demand recently. I probably should have added, that it is still less than the demand for the PI4. We are in effect making everything as fast as we can. More production lines take a long time to bring up (and are expensive), by which time the demand may have dropped, so it's not something we do on a whim.
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Re: Pi Zero Availability

Thu Apr 02, 2020 10:24 am

I too am waiting to purchase a Raspberry pi Zero W. Is there any way to make sure I get a British made one?

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Re: Pi Zero Availability

Thu Apr 02, 2020 10:28 am

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I too am waiting to purchase a Raspberry pi Zero W. Is there any way to make sure I get a British made one?

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Re: Pi Zero Availability

Thu Apr 02, 2020 10:57 am

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I too am waiting to purchase a Raspberry pi Zero W. Is there any way to make sure I get a British made one?
No. You get what you get.
Why the veiled zenophobia? What's special about a British one?

Looking at https://www.raspberrypi.org/documentati ... /README.md they aren't just made by Sony. But ALL raspberry pi zeros are made equal - regardless of where they're made.
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Re: Pi Zero Availability

Thu Apr 02, 2020 11:28 am

dmsuse wrote:
Thu Apr 02, 2020 10:24 am
I too am waiting to purchase a Raspberry pi Zero W. Is there any way to make sure I get a British made one?
There is no such thing as a British made one. Even the ones from the production line in Wales have most of the components made in various other parts of the world, particularly Asia.

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Re: Pi Zero Availability

Thu Apr 02, 2020 11:44 am

dmsuse wrote:
Thu Apr 02, 2020 10:24 am
I too am waiting to purchase a Raspberry pi Zero W. Is there any way to make sure I get a British made one?
All Pi Zero's are made to the same design and standard.
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Re: Pi Zero Availability

Thu Apr 02, 2020 6:08 pm

jamesh wrote:
Thu Apr 02, 2020 11:44 am
dmsuse wrote:
Thu Apr 02, 2020 10:24 am
I too am waiting to purchase a Raspberry pi Zero W. Is there any way to make sure I get a British made one?
All Pi Zero's are made to the same design and standard.
Even though assembled using imported parts, there is still some understandable patriotism in wanting one assembled in the particular country one is patronising.

One thing that a global crisis illustrates is how dependent various countries are on the good will of others for essentials as well as paper products. Compared to an all out war, the coronavirus is a much gentler reminder of those dependencies.

While the specs may be the same, I'm not sure that is what matters.

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Re: Pi Zero Availability

Thu Apr 02, 2020 7:11 pm

ejolson wrote:
Thu Apr 02, 2020 6:08 pm
jamesh wrote:
Thu Apr 02, 2020 11:44 am
dmsuse wrote:
Thu Apr 02, 2020 10:24 am
I too am waiting to purchase a Raspberry pi Zero W. Is there any way to make sure I get a British made one?
All Pi Zero's are made to the same design and standard.
Even though assembled using imported parts, there is still some understandable patriotism in wanting one assembled in the particular country one is patronising.

One thing that a global crisis illustrates is how dependent various countries are on the good will of others for essentials as well as paper products. Compared to an all out war, the coronavirus is a much gentler reminder of those dependencies.

While the specs may be the same, I'm not sure that is what matters.
Assembled by a robot that was made....somewhere else?
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