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Pi4 1GB Availability? US Distributor Shows It As Discontinued

Tue Feb 25, 2020 7:02 pm

I just checked with a chat agent at Element14 / Newark (the US distributor for all things Pi) and was told that the 1 GB model is no longer in production. See:

https://www.newark.com/raspberry-pi/rpi ... p/02AH3161

He wasn't sure if this was a "they're not making it any more" or a "they're changing something major enough that the part number is changing" but either way they show it as out of stock indefinitely.

Anyone know what's up with this? I tend to suspect it's a mistake, but as I'm working on a product design that uses the Pi 4B 1GB, I do want to make sure.

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Tue Feb 25, 2020 7:08 pm

News to me, but I've seen reports about other Pis like this before. Customer facing personnel at the vendors tend not to be overly well informed. What he may actually be reporting is a garbled version of "out of stock, don't know when we'll get more". The RPF has acknowledged that the Pi4B4 is the runaway best seller. That is, undoubtedly, putting pressure on the production lines, cutting back on the number of other versions being made. With that skew, it's also likely that the Pi4B2 is also selling fairly well, leaving the Pi4B1 as the red headed stepchild of the Pi4Bs.

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Re: Pi4 1GB Availability? US Distributor Shows It As Discontinued

Wed Feb 26, 2020 12:20 am

Yes, hopefully it's just the move to the next point release. If I have to I'll use the 2GB model. But my product doesn't need the extra RAM (and my budget really doesn't need the extra $10 COGS hit).

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Wed Feb 26, 2020 1:40 am

If the Pi4 1GB was permanently discontinued that would mean no $35 option for the current model board, and that price point has always been pretty central to the Raspberry Pi brand. I'm just a regular user and in no position to know but it would be my GUESS it's a temporary situation.

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Wed Feb 26, 2020 1:43 am

Try other suppliers, they might have some left.
I think RPF said 4GB and 1GB versions are the high demand ones.
Probably why there are so many 2GB ones in stock.

Eben has said they won't discontinue and the 1GB is the $35 is the main Pi.
I wonder who uses all the 1GB ones?
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Re: Pi4 1GB Availability? US Distributor Shows It As Discontinued

Wed Feb 26, 2020 2:52 am

I thought the 1GB models were all made by RPT, and only the 2GB & 4GB models were made by others (Farnell, etc.). :?
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Wed Feb 26, 2020 4:56 am

why has nobody yet pointed out the obvious?
Obsolescence Statement
Raspberry Pi 4 Model B will remain in production until at least January, 2026
from
https://www.raspberrypi.org/products/ra ... fications/

If one wanted to be obnoxious, I suppose they could argue that the 1GB model being discontinued doesn't change the Pi4b availability, but it's highly unlikely as the $35 price point has been very important to the Pi Foundation and they have demonstrated great reluctance to change that stance.
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Wed Feb 26, 2020 8:50 am

"No longer available" (from this specific vendor) is not the same as "Discontinued" (by the manufacturer), imho ;-)
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Wed Feb 26, 2020 9:22 am

Am still waiting for my local supplier to stock on these....as I think its perfect to replace the RPi4B-2G in my NAS setups.
its available in amazon, but I dont like the posted price......

will wait for its availability .... my systems are running fine as it is anyway..... :D
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Wed Feb 26, 2020 9:35 am

ill sell u mine for cheap so i can save n get better. i got a brand new in package seal still never even opened it n i have a orange pi prime

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Wed Feb 26, 2020 9:44 am

LTolledo wrote:
Wed Feb 26, 2020 9:22 am
Am still waiting for my local supplier to stock on these....as I think its perfect to replace the RPi4B-2G in my NAS setups.
its available in amazon, but I dont like the posted price......

will wait for its availability .... my systems are running fine as it is anyway..... :D
Perhaps the larger space for disk cache on the 2G might make your NAS run faster .....
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Wed Feb 26, 2020 5:44 pm

Maybe there is a new RPi4 version that will be announced on March 14th. I'm thinking even odds on that.

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Thu Feb 27, 2020 2:26 am

MagPi Magazine #91 March 2020 p6

https://magpi.raspberrypi.org/issues/91/pdf

"Thanks to falling RAM prices, Raspberry Pi 4 with 1GB is being retired; Raspberry Pi 2GB is now the new entry point to the family. The Raspberry P4 with 2GB has had a price reduction: it now matches the $35 recommended retail price of the former 1GB model. Entry-level newcomers get double the amount of RAM at no extra cost."

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Thu Feb 27, 2020 2:30 am

stumblingalong wrote:
Thu Feb 27, 2020 2:26 am
MagPi Magazine #91 March 2020 p6

https://magpi.raspberrypi.org/issues/91/pdf

"Thanks to falling RAM prices, Raspberry Pi 4 with 1GB is being retired; Raspberry Pi 2GB is now the new entry point to the family. The Raspberry P4 with 2GB has had a price reduction: it now matches the $35 recommended retail price of the former 1GB model. Entry-level newcomers get double the amount of RAM at no extra cost."
So my Pi4B1 is now sort of a collector's item....

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Thu Feb 27, 2020 2:52 am

No announcement other than a single one line mention in an affiliated magazine?
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Re: Pi4 1GB Availability? US Distributor Shows It As Discontinued

Thu Feb 27, 2020 3:01 am

Imperf3kt wrote:
Thu Feb 27, 2020 2:52 am
No announcement other than a single one line mention in an affiliated magazine?
The publishing date for the MagPi is today and I happened across a direct link. I do not think it's linked to the main site yet. Download it and read. It's not one line the article is two pages and the following one is an interview with Eben Upton as to why this has been done. I guess they'll announce it later?

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Re: Pi4 1GB Availability? US Distributor Shows It As Discontinued

Thu Feb 27, 2020 3:22 am

Wow, that does make a big difference $35 2GB :D
I suppose a drop in RAM pricing means the 4GB Pi4 will be more affordable too.
As Eben says in Magpi, 2GB is a viable desktop.
The 1GB with browser open and doing any compiling can be a pain, the 2GB has no issues.

Good news, except for those with the older priced ones in stock?
I see no price drop on my normal supplier website yet.
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Re: Pi4 1GB Availability? US Distributor Shows It As Discontinued

Thu Feb 27, 2020 3:26 am

stumblingalong wrote:
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Imperf3kt wrote:
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No announcement other than a single one line mention in an affiliated magazine?
The publishing date for the MagPi is today and I happened across a direct link. I do not think it's linked to the main site yet. Download it and read. It's not one line the article is two pages and the following one is an interview with Eben Upton as to why this has been done. I guess they'll announce it later?
Wasn't aware it came out today, I do not usually read the MagPi, instead I rely on the announcements section of the forum and occasionally the blog for information like this.

An official announcement later to confirm would definitely be useful.
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Thu Feb 27, 2020 3:43 am

Looks pretty official to me.
Here's a screenshot of that MagPi article:
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I'm assuming for $35 you get 2GB and for $55 you get 4GB, or are both models being decreased by $10?
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Thu Feb 27, 2020 4:20 am

Botspot wrote:
Thu Feb 27, 2020 3:43 am
Looks pretty official to me.
Looks can be deceiving.
The MagPi is a free[1] fanzine for users of the Raspberry Pi computer. It was created by the community[2][3] as an unofficial volunteer produced Raspberry Pi publication.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_MagPi


The MagPi has been known to publish inaccurate and sometimes even potentially dangerous information that could result in loss of life. I trust it as much as I trust my toilet paper.
One example
And another

I will wait for an announcement from a RPi employee, via an official channel.
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Thu Feb 27, 2020 6:15 am

Imperf3kt wrote:
Thu Feb 27, 2020 4:20 am
Botspot wrote:
Thu Feb 27, 2020 3:43 am
Looks pretty official to me.
Looks can be deceiving.
The MagPi is a free[1] fanzine for users of the Raspberry Pi computer. It was created by the community[2][3] as an unofficial volunteer produced Raspberry Pi publication.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_MagPi


The MagPi has been known to publish inaccurate and sometimes even potentially dangerous information that could result in loss of life. I trust it as much as I trust my toilet paper.
One example
And another

I will wait for an announcement from a RPi employee, via an official channel.
The MagPi magazine is now (and has been for a while) published by the RPF. From the 'About' page:

"The MagPi was created – like most great Raspberry Pi projects – by a group of like-minded enthusiasts from the Raspberry Pi forum. Their goal was to make a Raspberry Pi magazine for the whole community to enjoy (and they succeeded!). The magazine is now published by Raspberry Pi as the official Raspberry Pi magazine."

Also, if you actually look at the screenshot posted above, you'll see the article is by Gareth Halfacre, who I'm pretty sure falls within the Venn diagram of both an RPF employee and 'official channel'.

And if you care to download Issue 91, where the article came from, you'll see the next article is an interview with Eben himself about the change.

Hopefully that's convincing enough.

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Thu Feb 27, 2020 6:50 am

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Thu Feb 27, 2020 3:43 am
I'm assuming for $35 you get 2GB and for $55 you get 4GB, or are both models being decreased by $10?
Maybe they ran out of the memory chips used for the $35 model. Hopefully this also means an 8GB model is on the way so one can retain the 35/45/55 pricing scheme. On the other hand, given the supply-chain problems likely to result from the new coronavirus, maybe all the models will soon be out of stock.

While buying some extra rice and lentils in preparation for the quarantine, it may be good to add plenty of raspberry pie to the shopping list as well.

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Thu Feb 27, 2020 7:37 am

it may be good to add plenty of raspberry pie to the shopping list as well.
I heard all the Welsh have to do is block a few bridges and the factory will be nicely isolated.
Not sure about the stock situation?
They might have to stock pile them?

Could Pi's be used to make Virtual tourist viewers.
Grab enough 3D video footage so people can travel the world without leaving isolation?
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Thu Feb 27, 2020 7:55 am

Forris wrote:
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Hopefully that's convincing enough.
Ah, didn't realise that. Thank you for pointing that out, I simply didn't have the time to look properly before commenting, perhaps I should have waited until I did.

I still hold my opinion that the MagPi magazine sometimes has editorial issues, some life-threatening.

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Thu Feb 27, 2020 8:21 am

Pimoroni sent out an advertising email confirming this. The Pi 4 1 GB is history, glad I have one for my collection!
The 2 GB sells fort the now standard price of a Pi.
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