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Raspberry Pi Zero W Chip Fake?

Fri Jan 24, 2020 8:02 pm

Hello

I bought a Raspberry Zero W from a German dealer. But he has a different chip than usual.

I bought a Raspberry Zero W from a German dealer. But he has a different chip than usual. An ELPIDA is normally installed.
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Re: Raspberry Pi Zero W Chip Fake?

Fri Jan 24, 2020 8:32 pm

markus234 wrote:
Fri Jan 24, 2020 8:02 pm
Hello

I bought a Raspberry Zero W from a German dealer. But he has a different chip than usual.

I bought a Raspberry Zero W from a German dealer. But he has a different chip than usual. An ELPIDA is normally installed.

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That's the PoP (Package-on-Package IIRC)** mounted memory chip - historically they can be from different manufacturers so i doubt it's a fake.
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Re: Raspberry Pi Zero W Chip Fake?

Fri Jan 24, 2020 9:13 pm

As FTrevor said, the memory chip on top of the main chip can be from different manufacturers. That looks like a Micron memory chip which has been seen before on other versions of the Pi.
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Re: Raspberry Pi Zero W Chip Fake?

Fri Jan 24, 2020 9:17 pm

markus234 wrote:
Fri Jan 24, 2020 8:02 pm
Hello

I bought a Raspberry Zero W from a German dealer. But he has a different chip than usual.

I bought a Raspberry Zero W from a German dealer. But he has a different chip than usual. An ELPIDA is normally installed.

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Re: Raspberry Pi Zero W Chip Fake?

Fri Jan 24, 2020 9:17 pm

Yup, the "chip" you see is the RAM, not the SoC (which is underneath the RAM). If you look closely at the edge you can make out a small layer separation between the 2 components.
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So what you have "discovered" is that not all Pi0 computers use the same RAM chip. Nothing revolutionary there. Components often change over time in any system. It's quite common, actually.

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Re: Raspberry Pi Zero W Chip Fake?

Sat Jan 25, 2020 12:21 am

Thanks, then everything is fine. ;)

HawaiianPi wrote:
Fri Jan 24, 2020 9:17 pm
Yup, the "chip" you see is the RAM, not the SoC (which is underneath the RAM). If you look closely at the edge you can make out a small layer separation between the 2 components.
popram.jpg

So what you have "discovered" is that not all Pi0 computers use the same RAM chip. Nothing revolutionary there. Components often change over time in any system. It's quite common, actually.

EDIT: added crappy phone picture.

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