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Suggestions for a cheap, wireless, and reliable Keyboard/Mouse?

Fri Aug 02, 2019 12:02 pm

I currently have an older mechanical keyboard and a garish looking "gamer" mouse loaded with constantly on flashing RGB lights connected to my Pi in order to get it up and running. The aesthetics of it are driving me nuts and the cord clutter is causing some minor issues.

As I would really like to make my setup a bit cleaner and more professional looking I was curious if anyone had suggestions for a wireless KB/M that works well with the pi. I would prefer to spend as little money as possible while still maintaining a base level of longevity and reliability (I've had expensive mice go out on me after <1 year of usage and I've had $10 walmart mice last me nearly 7 years) In addition to eliminating the cords for aesthetic reasons I also have some potential use cases where I would like to be able to sit across the room (8 feet/2.5m) while controlling my Pi.

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Fri Aug 02, 2019 1:44 pm

I got a set similar to but not from this seller https://www.aliexpress.com/item/3300912 ... b201603_60.

once you get used to the low profile mouse its fine.. the keyboard isnt something you would want to write a novel on but it works..

my set is about 3 yrs old now, the mouse gets a lot more use than the keyboard as my Pi es all run headless and i use the mouse to play C&C games on my lappy.

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Re: Suggestions for a cheap, wireless, and reliable Keyboard/Mouse?

Fri Aug 02, 2019 1:54 pm

bomblord wrote:
Fri Aug 02, 2019 12:02 pm
I currently have an older mechanical keyboard and a garish looking "gamer" mouse loaded with constantly on flashing RGB lights connected to my Pi in order to get it up and running. The aesthetics of it are driving me nuts and the cord clutter is causing some minor issues.

As I would really like to make my setup a bit cleaner and more professional looking I was curious if anyone had suggestions for a wireless KB/M that works well with the pi. I would prefer to spend as little money as possible while still maintaining a base level of longevity and reliability (I've had expensive mice go out on me after <1 year of usage and I've had $10 walmart mice last me nearly 7 years) In addition to eliminating the cords for aesthetic reasons I also have some potential use cases where I would like to be able to sit across the room (8 feet/2.5m) while controlling my Pi.


https://www.keyboardspecialists.co.uk/p ... d-touchpad

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Fri Aug 02, 2019 8:10 pm

It depends on where you want to land in the ergonomics and key feel versus price spectrum. I hate mushy keyboards and am slightly fussy about things like where the special characters are in the layout.

In terms of good keyboards, I really like the logitech K840, however that is both wired and expensive. For my living room I quite like the Microsoft All-In-One Media Keyboard, with a built-in touchpad. I like the key feel and layout significantly more than the Logitech K400 (I have both). On my media box, I don't bother with a mouse unless I am doing a bunch of configuration work, and just use the touchpad.

The K840 is around $80, the Microsoft around $45, and the K400 around $30.

If you really want a good wireless mouse I am sold on the Logitech MX Master 2S which is around $120. I have 3 of them and they are among the best I have used. They can support connecting to 3 seperate devices, and support both the Logitech USB receiver and Bluetooth. A great mouse if you have large hands.

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Re: Suggestions for a cheap, wireless, and reliable Keyboard/Mouse?

Sat Aug 03, 2019 6:22 pm

When I had such a question, I surfed the internet shops and choosed the cheapest one. It works already 2 years.

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Re: Suggestions for a cheap, wireless, and reliable Keyboard/Mouse?

Sun Aug 04, 2019 11:24 am

Not sure what 'cheap' means, but I had this Logitech wireless keyboard lying around and plugged it in to my Pi4 ... works great.

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Sun Aug 04, 2019 11:37 am

A Logitech K400 is what I use most of the time. The keys are a nice size for my knubby fingers and it has a built in trackpad where the number pad would be. This one goes from Pi to Pi a lot. I'm a trackball type of guy so I don't miss not having a mouse. I could link one of my M570's to its dongle if need be. If this keyboard actually ended up being permanently assigned to a particular Pi I likely would tie one of my M570's to it also for ease of use.

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Sun Aug 04, 2019 1:27 pm

kennyc wrote:
Sun Aug 04, 2019 11:24 am
Not sure what 'cheap' means, but I had this Logitech wireless keyboard lying around and plugged it in to my Pi4 ... works great.

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00BP5KOPA
Was actually looking at that exact keyboard and trying to decide between it and a slightly different one.

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Sun Aug 04, 2019 6:50 pm

alphanumeric wrote:
Sun Aug 04, 2019 11:37 am
A Logitech K400 is what I use most of the time. The keys are a nice size for my knubby fingers and it has a built in trackpad where the number pad would be. This one goes from Pi to Pi a lot. I'm a trackball type of guy so I don't miss not having a mouse. I could link one of my M570's to its dongle if need be. If this keyboard actually ended up being permanently assigned to a particular Pi I likely would tie one of my M570's to it also for ease of use.
The K400 is great...have 2...but my fingers do poorly on the trackpad so I would go for a M325 mouse which would work with the "K400's "unifying receiver". There is a neat Linux utility for pairing things with the USB receivers called Solaar...there is another one as well but I don't recall the name. I use the K400 for quick and dirty hookups to RPi's but I pine for the look and feel of my ageing Logitech UltraX's (wired) which I use on my x86 boxes.

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Sun Aug 04, 2019 7:21 pm

Thats one thing I like about the Logitech Unifying receivers. You can pair what you want to that one dongle. I bought a keyboard mouse set on sale. Unpaired the keyboard from the dongle and gave the mouse and dongle to my father. He then paired it with his keyboard. I took the keyboard and paired it with the M570 I use on my x86 desktop PC. Plus no need for special drivers, its just plug and play. The PC sees it as a USB HID device. I didn't know there was a pairing Utility for Linux though. I usually do it via the Unifying software in Windows.

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Sun Aug 04, 2019 7:34 pm

Logitech K270 and mouse - low cost, good feel and nice sound. Also they are currently cheap on Amazon UK (not an affiliate link) here

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Re: Suggestions for a cheap, wireless, and reliable Keyboard/Mouse?

Sun Aug 04, 2019 7:54 pm

I also have a Logitech K400r keyboard with trackpad that I've been using on various Pi models for years. It's very lightweight and works well, and as others have said, you can pair additional devices to the same dongle, so you can add a mouse and still only use a single dongle/USB port. It has flat, laptop style keys, but they do have the standard key spacing so it's pretty easy to type on.

There is a program called solaar for Logitech unifying devices on Linux, and it is available for Raspbian. It will let you pair and unpair devices, but doesn't have all of the functionality of the Windows software (which can toggle function keys and update firmware). I have used it with my Pi computers, and it's quite handy for users with Unifying devices.
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Sun Aug 04, 2019 8:01 pm

I don't usually install the full Logitech software, Logitech Options I think its called now. If you hunt around you can get just the Unifying utility which is all you need to link and unlink.

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Re: Suggestions for a cheap, wireless, and reliable Keyboard/Mouse?

Mon Aug 05, 2019 1:01 am

Ended up with a ~35 Logitech I picked up at the store today. It's very nice and it's 2 in 1 so I only use 1 usb slot.

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Re: Suggestions for a cheap, wireless, and reliable Keyboard/Mouse?

Mon Aug 05, 2019 1:09 am

Logitech K400r is a great option, light and very usable. Sadly after quite a few years (5+) the energiser batteries leaked and ruined it. A set also leaked last year and ruined the expensive apply wireless keyboard so pick your batteries with care. I have also used tiny aliexpress ones and they are OK but the plastic is rubbish, but I will keep looking for a tiny one as I want it in my car.

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Re: Suggestions for a cheap, wireless, and reliable Keyboard/Mouse?

Mon Aug 05, 2019 4:24 am

gzcwnk wrote:
Mon Aug 05, 2019 1:09 am
Logitech K400r is a great option, light and very usable. Sadly after quite a few years (5+) the energiser batteries leaked and ruined it. A set also leaked last year and ruined the expensive apply wireless keyboard so pick your batteries with care.
Energizer has a warranty against damage caused by leakage. You could try and file a claim with them.
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Mon Aug 05, 2019 7:06 am

I do use a Logitech wireless keyboard and mouse at home for laptop, I think it did cost 25$.

When travelling I use a really cheap wireless keyboard with builtin touch (5$ on aliexpress).
The touch is quite useful since my 7" DPMI lcd does not have touch.
Even at home I run my PIs with either this keyboard (and HDMI monitor), or headless:
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Re: Suggestions for a cheap, wireless, and reliable Keyboard/Mouse?

Mon Aug 05, 2019 7:21 am

I've used bluetooth mice and keyboards with a Pi on occasions (I mostly run headless). The keyboards I've used were TechGear - small, but just about usable, and the mice were Voxon. Both were from Amazon. One of my TechGear keyboards has a mousepad built in. Battery life on both aren't bad. The keyboards are rechargeable via USB and I use a couple of NiMh AA batteries in the mouse. They last a few months at a time.

I'm typing this on one of the keyboards now, paired to my laptop instead of a Pi for a change.

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Re: Suggestions for a cheap, wireless, and reliable Keyboard/Mouse?

Tue Sep 17, 2019 8:19 pm

rpdom,

Are you able to use both bluetooth mouse and bluetooth keyboard with RPi's built in bluetooth adapter while WiFi is enabled?

Because I don't think anyone else has been able to do that.

For me I can use 2 of those 3 things, but if I connect bluetooth mouse & bluetooth keyboard with WiFi enabled, the keyboard is sticky and laggy.

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Re: Suggestions for a cheap, wireless, and reliable Keyboard/Mouse?

Tue Sep 17, 2019 8:36 pm

i think the 3b+ does that... not sure if the 4B does that. i am interested if it does.
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Re: Suggestions for a cheap, wireless, and reliable Keyboard/Mouse?

Tue Sep 17, 2019 8:42 pm

of corse the official mouse and keyboard should be suggested.

otherwise i have ordered 4/5 of these kbd/mouse kits and have used them with 3b+ before, they work good and battery life lasts a long time. https://www.ebay.com/itm/2-4GHz-Wireles ... SwjodaFXBm

official keyboard is worth it though!
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Re: Suggestions for a cheap, wireless, and reliable Keyboard/Mouse?

Tue Sep 17, 2019 9:20 pm

HermannSW wrote:
Mon Aug 05, 2019 7:06 am
When travelling I use a really cheap wireless keyboard with builtin touch (5$ on aliexpress).
I am using the same and can recommend it to get access to a RPi on site. It is small and handy.
At home all my Pis are all headless and I control them from the main computer with a Microsoft keyboard/mouse (the only thing they really have done well ;-))

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Re: Suggestions for a cheap, wireless, and reliable Keyboard/Mouse?

Wed Sep 18, 2019 11:07 am

You can browse online and check the best one and buy based on the reviews and within your budget.

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