sbutton
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Need an outdoor case for a security camera

Mon Feb 25, 2019 10:13 am

Hi,

I've been looking around for a case for a security camera. I purchased one previously, and the Pi model 1B fitted inside it... just.

Now I want to build another one based off a Pi 3B+ using ethernet, and it doesn't fit inside the same case.

I can see recommendations on here from 2013 and others for american sites, but I'm looking for something from the UK.

A dummy CCTV, or an empty housing basically.

Any suggestions?

Thanks!

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Re: Need an outdoor case for a security camera

Thu Feb 28, 2019 9:13 am

Nudge!?

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Re: Need an outdoor case for a security camera

Thu Feb 28, 2019 10:51 am

I suggest you search places like eBay for second-hand commercial size CCTV cameras, but they are not going to be cheap,

all the dummy CCTV cameras will probably be to small for for a pi3.
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Re: Need an outdoor case for a security camera

Thu Feb 28, 2019 11:26 am

I think this one https://cpc.farnell.com/haydon/hay-772c ... pd-mi-alte would be big enough, but it's a pretty solid unit and expensive.

This one also looks a possible https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Dummy-Securi ... ctupt=true and quite a bit cheaper.


I normally use PiZero for my camera apps which obviously fits easily into small housings. With a USB ethernet and extracting power over ethernet it makes for a neat one cable solution.

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Re: Need an outdoor case for a security camera

Thu Feb 28, 2019 4:18 pm

sbutton wrote:
Mon Feb 25, 2019 10:13 am
Hi,

I've been looking around for a case for a security camera. I purchased one previously, and the Pi model 1B fitted inside it... just.

Now I want to build another one based off a Pi 3B+ using ethernet, and it doesn't fit inside the same case.

I can see recommendations on here from 2013 and others for american sites, but I'm looking for something from the UK.

A dummy CCTV, or an empty housing basically.

Any suggestions?

Thanks!
Would a 64-bit quad core CPU be required for your application? Maybe instead of a larger case you need a Pi Zero instead.

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Re: Need an outdoor case for a security camera

Thu Feb 28, 2019 4:36 pm

I tried with an original pi v1 and it was very slow to refresh the pages. Perhaps overkill using a pi3 b+ but for £35 who cares?

I believe the pi zero has the same spec as the original pi. I might use pi zeros for some of my less important cameras.

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Re: Need an outdoor case for a security camera

Thu Feb 28, 2019 4:40 pm

Perhaps not what you asked for, but why a protective case at all if you are not near the sea?

https://www.raspberrypi.org/forums/view ... 7#p1198068
The (fresh) water resistance of unprotected electronics is quite surprising sometimes (at low voltage?). :D

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Re: Need an outdoor case for a security camera

Thu Feb 28, 2019 5:09 pm

Might work, for an hour, a day, a week. Will fail pretty soon.

Water, metal conductors and electricity do not work for long. Even if the water is pure.

See electrolysis: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electrolysis

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Re: Need an outdoor case for a security camera

Thu Feb 28, 2019 10:33 pm

If you're happy with re-purposing a case from something else then some ultrasonic cat repellers are large enough, waterproof(ish) and cheap. You might even be able to scavenge a few useful components for future projects.

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Re: Need an outdoor case for a security camera

Fri Mar 01, 2019 5:47 am

If you go to your local supplier of electrical installation things they will have all kind of water proof boxes for outdoor electrical things. For example: https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B07F9S5W2R/ ... ax_0?psc=1

I'm sure you can figure out how to make a hole for the camera and such. Silicon fish tank glue might be useful.

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Re: Need an outdoor case for a security camera

Fri Mar 01, 2019 6:56 am

Heater wrote:
Fri Mar 01, 2019 5:47 am
If you go to your local supplier of electrical installation things they will have all kind of water proof boxes for outdoor electrical things. For example: https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B07F9S5W2R/ ... ax_0?psc=1

I'm sure you can figure out how to make a hole for the camera and such. Silicon fish tank glue might be useful.
I want it to look like a CCTV camera though, because it's a visible deterrant. The original project I followed was here https://www.raspberrypi.org/blog/turn-y ... lance-cam/ however the dummy one suggested here is too small for the Pi3 (which has the micro USB power in a different place) and also I need to use Ethernet which makes the footprint even larger. Ethernet is another reason I've ruled out a Pi Zero.

I've found one on eBay

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/273577143721

It's a bit ugly, and doesn't come with a wall bracket. He's thrown in a bracket for a few more ££, so I think I'm good to go now.

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Re: Need an outdoor case for a security camera

Fri Mar 01, 2019 8:19 am

Be cunning, put the cheap plastic fake security camera box where it is prominent. But empty.

Hide the real camera in an unobtrusive box.

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Re: Need an outdoor case for a security camera

Fri Mar 01, 2019 9:11 am

sbutton wrote:
Fri Mar 01, 2019 6:56 am

I want it to look like a CCTV camera though, because it's a visible deterrant. The original project I followed was here https://www.raspberrypi.org/blog/turn-y ... lance-cam/ however the dummy one suggested here is too small for the Pi3 (which has the micro USB power in a different place) and also I need to use Ethernet which makes the footprint even larger. Ethernet is another reason I've ruled out a Pi Zero.

I've found one on eBay

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/273577143721

It's a bit ugly, and doesn't come with a wall bracket. He's thrown in a bracket for a few more ££, so I think I'm good to go now.
I think that is the same housing as suggested in my second link 4th post). That one did come with bracket and had free postage so I think cost was the same.

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Re: Need an outdoor case for a security camera

Fri Mar 01, 2019 9:31 am

btidey wrote:
Fri Mar 01, 2019 9:11 am
sbutton wrote:
Fri Mar 01, 2019 6:56 am

I want it to look like a CCTV camera though, because it's a visible deterrant. The original project I followed was here https://www.raspberrypi.org/blog/turn-y ... lance-cam/ however the dummy one suggested here is too small for the Pi3 (which has the micro USB power in a different place) and also I need to use Ethernet which makes the footprint even larger. Ethernet is another reason I've ruled out a Pi Zero.

I've found one on eBay

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/273577143721

It's a bit ugly, and doesn't come with a wall bracket. He's thrown in a bracket for a few more ££, so I think I'm good to go now.
I think that is the same housing as suggested in my second link 4th post). That one did come with bracket and had free postage so I think cost was the same.
Many thanks for the suggestion, however the one you suggested is similar, but it's Size "320 x 110 x 100 mm." at only 11 cm wide, it's not quite big enough to squeeze in a Pi, whereas the one I've purchased in 14cm wide, so *hopefully* just enough... perhaps with some cutting involved. :-)

It might be time to get that Dremel that I've always wanted.

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