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Eltechs ExaGear Desktop will be discontinued on Feb.28'th 2019

Posted: Tue Feb 19, 2019 6:47 am
by beta-tester
hello, i just saw that Eltechs ExaGear Desktop (an Intel x86 virtual machine) will just be discontinued on feb.28'th 2019...
does anybody know why?
see: exagear-desktop-features-and-prices-final2
and exagear-x86-emulator-for-arm-to-be-discontinued (rtl-sdr)

Re: Eltechs ExaGear Desktop will be discontinued on Feb.28'th 2019

Posted: Tue Feb 19, 2019 7:25 am
by Heater
They did not make enough money?

Same old proprietary software problem.

Re: Eltechs ExaGear Desktop will be discontinued on Feb.28'th 2019

Posted: Tue Feb 19, 2019 8:36 am
by B.Goode
Maybe ask them directly: contact eltechs at http://forum.eltechs.com/ or [email protected]

Forum user @pUnK used to act as advocate for this product but has not been active here since mid-2018.

Re: Eltechs ExaGear Desktop will be discontinued on Feb.28'th 2019

Posted: Tue Feb 19, 2019 11:03 pm
by runboy93
Well, they haven't much updated it during last year or so...

Retropie still get most users, for gaming. FOR FREE!

Re: Eltechs ExaGear Desktop will be discontinued on Feb.28'th 2019

Posted: Wed Feb 20, 2019 1:13 am
by Rascas
I dont know what was their problem, but I think their product is/was helpfull for some people. Not for me but I have a friend who still runs a stock managment program original made for windows 98 or so on the raspberry pi with it. It is a good product, and not expensive if it really serves you.

Re: Eltechs ExaGear Desktop will be discontinued on Feb.28'th 2019

Posted: Sun Mar 24, 2019 6:51 am
by pibi974
Hi

i ve paid the software but unfortunatly the RPI crashes. I keep the "product key" but no save of main software "exagear-desktop-rpi3.tar.gz"

ExaGear is discontinued so if someonce could send the software ("exagear-desktop-rpi3.tar.gz") it ll be great.

I have the key product so i don t purshase it....

Thank you.

Regards

Re: Eltechs ExaGear Desktop will be discontinued on Feb.28'th 2019

Posted: Mon Mar 25, 2019 7:38 pm
by beta-tester
pibi974 wrote:
Sun Mar 24, 2019 6:51 am
Hi

i ve paid the software but unfortunatly the RPI crashes. I keep the "product key" but no save of main software "exagear-desktop-rpi3.tar.gz"

ExaGear is discontinued so if someonce could send the software ("exagear-desktop-rpi3.tar.gz") it ll be great.

I have the key product so i don t purshase it....

Thank you.

Regards
did you contact ExaGear already and asked if they could give you the latest available version you prucased? i mean they don't sell that software anymore any dont maintain it, but maybe they still are willed to help.

Re: Eltechs ExaGear Desktop will be discontinued on Feb.28'th 2019

Posted: Sun Mar 31, 2019 5:17 pm
by Inf32den
They don’t answer for emails. Not in fb, nor a VK.com I’m desperate, my whole project was connected to it. And now that. Maybe somebody can help me for a donation? Maybe consultation or help?

Re: Eltechs ExaGear Desktop will be discontinued on Feb.28'th 2019

Posted: Sun Mar 31, 2019 8:10 pm
by TheKolaNN
Can anyone share the product key which is not in use? I would like to pay for it.
I am setting up a Pi with delay of about 10 days before they closed and I was not aware of it. Furthermore at this moment I could not find better replacement.

Re: Eltechs ExaGear Desktop will be discontinued on Feb.28'th 2019

Posted: Sun Mar 31, 2019 8:37 pm
by ejolson
TheKolaNN wrote:
Sun Mar 31, 2019 8:10 pm
Can anyone share the product key which is not in use? I would like to pay for it.
I am setting up a Pi with delay of about 10 days before they closed and I was not aware of it. Furthermore at this moment I could not find better replacement.
Have you read the following thread:

viewtopic.php?t=226376

Re: Eltechs ExaGear Desktop will be discontinued on Feb.28'th 2019

Posted: Tue Apr 02, 2019 10:43 pm
by TheKolaNN
ejolson wrote:
Sun Mar 31, 2019 8:37 pm
TheKolaNN wrote:
Sun Mar 31, 2019 8:10 pm
Can anyone share the product key which is not in use? I would like to pay for it.
I am setting up a Pi with delay of about 10 days before they closed and I was not aware of it. Furthermore at this moment I could not find better replacement.
Have you read the following thread:

viewtopic.php?t=226376
Thanks!
I am figuring out.

Re: Eltechs ExaGear Desktop will be discontinued on Feb.28'th 2019

Posted: Fri May 03, 2019 4:51 pm
by code_exec
ExaGear was always failing, and Eltechs probably knew that their product was failing. They were getting people to pay just to run x86 applications when the same thing can essentially be achieved with an x86 chroot. Also, they got an employee of their company to spam about their product on this forum. Not the best way to spend your money in my opinion.

Re: Eltechs ExaGear Desktop will be discontinued on Feb.28'th 2019

Posted: Tue May 07, 2019 12:42 pm
by jpers
Heater wrote:
Tue Feb 19, 2019 7:25 am
They did not make enough money?

Same old proprietary software problem.
My speculation. If I read descriptions of ExaGear correctly, they took QEMU and Wine, optimized them, DRMed the whole package and sold it for $27.

I bet this was gross violation of QEMU license, which is essentially GPL V2. https://wiki.qemu.org/License
GPL requires anyone who supplies binaries (paid or for free) to provide source code as well, applies to derivative works as well.

Obviously someone reminded them about this, and therefore software was practically scrubbed off internet.

Re: Eltechs ExaGear Desktop will be discontinued on Feb.28'th 2019

Posted: Tue May 07, 2019 12:57 pm
by fruitoftheloom
jpers wrote:
Tue May 07, 2019 12:42 pm
Heater wrote:
Tue Feb 19, 2019 7:25 am
They did not make enough money?

Same old proprietary software problem.
My speculation. If I read descriptions of ExaGear correctly, they took QEMU and Wine, optimized them, DRMed the whole package and sold it for $27.

I bet this was gross violation of QEMU license, which is essentially GPL V2. https://wiki.qemu.org/License
GPL requires anyone who supplies binaries (paid or for free) to provide source code as well, applies to derivative works as well.

Obviously someone reminded them about this, and therefore software was practically scrubbed off internet. Anyone have a link or a cracked version?

It was sold at varying $$$ prices during its short life. ;)

Re: Eltechs ExaGear Desktop will be discontinued on Feb.28'th 2019

Posted: Tue May 07, 2019 1:11 pm
by klricks
IMO in a Linux environment any software that costs more than 0$ is doomed to failure. I don't care if it is source free or not.
Even with Windows, except for the OS itself, I have not needed to buy any software for decades. This due to opensource projects such as LibreOffice,

Re: Eltechs ExaGear Desktop will be discontinued on Feb.28'th 2019

Posted: Tue May 07, 2019 1:42 pm
by hippy
klricks wrote:
Tue May 07, 2019 1:11 pm
IMO in a Linux environment any software that costs more than 0$ is doomed to failure. I don't care if it is source free or not.
Depends on what it is and how many are willing to pay for the convenience of zero effort, not having to figure out the how-to themselves, whether those potentially willing to pay consider it to be good value for money or not.

Eltechs problem as I see it was they were in a niche market to start with, and they were refusing to allow any try-before-you-buy trial so potential purchasers could not make an informed decision, could not even assess if it would work for their intended purpose, before paying.

Re: Eltechs ExaGear Desktop will be discontinued on Feb.28'th 2019

Posted: Tue May 07, 2019 1:46 pm
by jamesh
jpers wrote:
Tue May 07, 2019 12:42 pm
Heater wrote:
Tue Feb 19, 2019 7:25 am
They did not make enough money?

Same old proprietary software problem.
My speculation. If I read descriptions of ExaGear correctly, they took QEMU and Wine, optimized them, DRMed the whole package and sold it for $27.

I bet this was gross violation of QEMU license, which is essentially GPL V2. https://wiki.qemu.org/License
GPL requires anyone who supplies binaries (paid or for free) to provide source code as well, applies to derivative works as well.

Obviously someone reminded them about this, and therefore software was practically scrubbed off internet.
No evidence, and seems more likely they simply never made any money out of it. It would be easy enough to supply the source code of the apps used, but still keep some home grown secret cause back.

I have no evidence one way or the other.

Re: Eltechs ExaGear Desktop will be discontinued on Feb.28'th 2019

Posted: Tue May 07, 2019 1:48 pm
by ShiftPlusOne
AFAIK, there were no GPL violations of any kind. These aren't good accusations to throw around without being 100% sure.

There is nothing that says you can't sell free software and all the changes they've made were public on github. Qemu would've just been in their userland archive which wasn't "DRMed".

Re: Eltechs ExaGear Desktop will be discontinued on Feb.28'th 2019

Posted: Tue May 07, 2019 2:10 pm
by fruitoftheloom
ShiftPlusOne wrote:
Tue May 07, 2019 1:48 pm
AFAIK, there were no GPL violations of any kind. These aren't good accusations to throw around without being 100% sure.

There is nothing that says you can't sell free software and all the changes they've made were public on github. Qemu would've just been in their userland archive which wasn't "DRMed".

https://github.com/Eltechs

Re: Eltechs ExaGear Desktop will be discontinued on Feb.28'th 2019

Posted: Sat May 11, 2019 7:27 am
by Jurosik5000
Hello, kind of a silly question but does anyone have a download for the ExaGear desktop files? If yes please post them i would be really thankful.
If this is impossible I am willing to sell my licence.

Re: Eltechs ExaGear Desktop will be discontinued on Feb.28'th 2019

Posted: Sun Jun 30, 2019 6:02 am
by Karaya1
Jurosik5000 wrote:
Sat May 11, 2019 7:27 am
Hello, kind of a silly question but does anyone have a download for the ExaGear desktop files? If yes please post them i would be really thankful.
If this is impossible I am willing to sell my licence.
Hi Jurosik5000 is that key still for sale? If so, let me know as I am interested in getting another key for my cloned raspberry pi.

Thanks

Re: Eltechs ExaGear Desktop will be discontinued on Feb.28'th 2019

Posted: Sat Jul 06, 2019 8:04 pm
by GreatLeader_Technus
Was it even capable of executing x86 Assembly Code? That's the whole reason I got Exagear..... if not are there other ways of compiling x86 Assembly code? I was conducting research for a professor of mine that was looking into possibly transitioning his Assembly classes to run on Raspberry Pi.

Re: Eltechs ExaGear Desktop will be discontinued on Feb.28'th 2019

Posted: Sat Jul 06, 2019 8:13 pm
by Heater
This may be a silly question but if one is going to teach assembler on the Pi why not teach ARM assembler? Compile, run, easy.

There is no need for the x86 part. Unless said professor does not want to rewrite his teaching materials for ARM.