andrum99 wrote: ↑
Tue Jan 01, 2019 1:50 am
W. H. Heydt wrote: ↑
Mon Dec 31, 2018 6:06 pm
andrum99 wrote: ↑
Mon Dec 31, 2018 5:10 pm
The Compute Module is not aimed at end users. It is aimed at companies that want more freedom to design their own product without being constrained by what the "normal" Pi has on it. It's not designed to be difficult, it is just aimed at a different market.
While that is true, it isn't the complete picture. There is nothing preventing end users from using CMs.
I wasn't suggesting there was anything preventing end users from using CMs. What I meant was that it is not reasonable to expect the Compute Module be easy or cheap for an end user to use, since it is designed for a different market.
For some values of "easy"... I didn't find it all that diffcult to use. Yes, it's designed for a different market, but, then, the Pi itself is designed for a different market than the one where most people are using it. After all, how many kids-learning-coding are there in this discussion?
As the recently post cartoon points out, one can go around and around on this topic and not get anywhere. While a few people would like the Pi to include on-board eMMC, there is no indication that the RPF/RPT are going in that direction. The net result is, if you want on-board eMMC, then you either use a different SBC, or you use the CM/CM3. There are many other features for which choices like this are necessary. In the end, if you want a feature, in some way shape or form, you're going to pay for it. If you want the price and support level of a Pi, you're not going to get on-board eMMC unless and until the RPF/RPT decide that it makes sense to them to include it, and not before (and maybe never).
I suppose in the final analysis, the appropriate question to ask of those that really want eMMC is, just *how* badly (in terms of dollars) it is wanted. Perhaps those wanting eMMC on a Pi should pool their resources and make use of the Element 14 custom Pi service to have the board of their dreams made...if there are enough people that want it (a good test of viability in it's own right), they can agree on exactly what they want, and they can--collectively--pony up the funds to pay for it.