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Re: New glossary

Mon Oct 01, 2018 7:24 pm

Great idea ..

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Re: New glossary

Mon Oct 01, 2018 7:26 pm

bensimmo wrote:
Mon Oct 01, 2018 11:48 am
Just because GNU has a history to 'deserve it' it doesn't mean anyone needs to know or will use the term and want to look it up.
It's just adds clutter.

It would be more useful to have PinkPonies and what it means than GNU.
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I'm a GNU. :ugeek:
Or am I a Pink Pony, or even a Unicorn? :?

Help, I'm confused, I need a Glossary ... :lol:
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Unicorn: See Pink Pony.
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Re: New glossary

Tue Oct 02, 2018 3:22 am

hippy wrote:
Mon Oct 01, 2018 1:22 pm
"Bluetooth" - Used to connect from your phone to the Pi or to connect the Pi to sensors.
That should require a mention of Harald Bluetooth, for whom the protocol is named. He was a late 10th century Danish king.
"Polyfuse" - A self-resetting electronic fuse fitted to the Pi board which can help protect your Pi from electrical damage.
Electrical fuse, not electronic.

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Re: New glossary

Tue Oct 02, 2018 3:31 am

BCM2835 Add the A+ to the list of Pis that use it.

Need disambiguation for ISP as it is also Internet Service Provider.

Since A (Ampere) and V (Volt) are in the glossary, you may want to add W (Watt == power). I don't *think* you need to add Wh (Watt-hour == energy).

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Re: New glossary

Tue Oct 02, 2018 5:31 am

W. H. Heydt wrote:
Tue Oct 02, 2018 3:31 am
I don't *think* you need to add Wh (Watt-hour == energy).
Perhaps "mAh, Ah and Wh are units of power capacity commonly used in rechargeable batteries/powerbanks, not to be confused with mA, A or W"

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Re: New glossary

Tue Oct 02, 2018 11:45 am

OK, added the ones I liked from the lists above.
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Re: New glossary

Sat Nov 03, 2018 10:33 am

"Poppycock and Balderdash" -- a signal to the mods that a thread needs closing. Works in a matter of hours. The preferred method is to use the "report" icon. See viewtopic.php?f=62&t=226114#p1387472

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Re: New glossary

Sat Nov 03, 2018 10:50 am

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Sat Nov 03, 2018 10:33 am
"Poppycock and Balderdash" -- a signal to the mods that a thread needs closing. Works in a matter of hours. The preferred method is to use the "report" icon. See viewtopic.php?f=62&t=226114#p1387472

:lol:

Claptrap
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It no way is intended to close a thread, it is just easier than writing a diatribe in response to an absurd post !
Rather than negativity think outside the box !
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Re: New glossary

Sat Nov 03, 2018 12:44 pm

fruitoftheloom wrote:
Sat Nov 03, 2018 10:50 am
davidcoton wrote:
Sat Nov 03, 2018 10:33 am
"Poppycock and Balderdash" -- a signal to the mods that a thread needs closing. Works in a matter of hours. The preferred method is to use the "report" icon. See viewtopic.php?f=62&t=226114#p1387472

:lol:

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It no way is intended to close a thread, it is just easier than writing a diatribe in response to an absurd post !
Unfortunately it often is used that way and you seem to forget the one rule this forum has; "be nice to each other". If you don't have anything good to say it is perhaps better to not say anything at all or have the decency to explain why - in your opinion - something is absurd, claptrap, drivel, hogwash, poppycock and balderdash

As it is it's little better than shouting names at posters. As you seem to be admitting, it's your substitute for diatribe; "a forceful and bitter verbal attack against someone or something".

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Re: New glossary

Sat Nov 03, 2018 5:41 pm

rpdom wrote:
Tue Oct 02, 2018 5:31 am
W. H. Heydt wrote:
Tue Oct 02, 2018 3:31 am
I don't *think* you need to add Wh (Watt-hour == energy).
Perhaps "mAh, Ah and Wh are units of power capacity commonly used in rechargeable batteries/powerbanks, not to be confused with mA, A or W"
Yeah...except mAh and Ah *aren't* units of energy, which Wh is. The problem with so many batteries being given mAh/Ah ratings is that far to many people don't realize that the implied voltage for the rating is 3.7v, rather than the 5v output. That's why I usually tell people to convert everything to W and Wh's to see the true capacity and load. Fortunately, all of this is DC so RMS and phase angles don't enter the picture.

Perhaps a mention of "dimensional analysis", aka Keep Your Units Consistent.

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Re: New glossary

Sat Nov 03, 2018 9:42 pm

W. H. Heydt wrote:
Sat Nov 03, 2018 5:41 pm
rpdom wrote:
Tue Oct 02, 2018 5:31 am
W. H. Heydt wrote:
Tue Oct 02, 2018 3:31 am
I don't *think* you need to add Wh (Watt-hour == energy).
Perhaps "mAh, Ah and Wh are units of power capacity commonly used in rechargeable batteries/powerbanks, not to be confused with mA, A or W"
Yeah...except mAh and Ah *aren't* units of energy, which Wh is. The problem with so many batteries being given mAh/Ah ratings is that far to many people don't realize that the implied voltage for the rating is 3.7v, rather than the 5v output. That's why I usually tell people to convert everything to W and Wh's to see the true capacity and load. Fortunately, all of this is DC so RMS and phase angles don't enter the picture.

Perhaps a mention of "dimensional analysis", aka Keep Your Units Consistent.
mAh is a human readable form of coulomb, a unit of charge.
though I see you're getting at Wh (which isn't a unit of charge), now I read again :-)

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Re: New glossary

Sat Nov 03, 2018 11:23 pm

hi jamesh and contributors,

Excellent work!

One minor cosmetic issue, between the "term" and the "description" sometimes a hyphen is used, sometimes a long dash.

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Re: New glossary

Sat Nov 03, 2018 11:50 pm

bensimmo wrote:
Sat Nov 03, 2018 9:42 pm
W. H. Heydt wrote:
Sat Nov 03, 2018 5:41 pm
rpdom wrote:
Tue Oct 02, 2018 5:31 am

Perhaps "mAh, Ah and Wh are units of power capacity commonly used in rechargeable batteries/powerbanks, not to be confused with mA, A or W"
Yeah...except mAh and Ah *aren't* units of energy, which Wh is. The problem with so many batteries being given mAh/Ah ratings is that far to many people don't realize that the implied voltage for the rating is 3.7v, rather than the 5v output. That's why I usually tell people to convert everything to W and Wh's to see the true capacity and load. Fortunately, all of this is DC so RMS and phase angles don't enter the picture.

Perhaps a mention of "dimensional analysis", aka Keep Your Units Consistent.
mAh is a human readable form of coulomb, a unit of charge.
though I see you're getting at Wh (which isn't a unit of charge), now I read again :-)
Since everything Pi is either 3.3v or 5v--and when you're sealing with anything more that a few mA, it's 5v--the problem area that comes up time and time again is basically an advertising problem. Companies tout LiPo battery capacities in mAh (or--occasionally--Ah). Since that is based on a 3.7v cell voltage, it makes nice impressive numbers. The problem comes when people try to treat that as being at 5v, as that's the converted and regulated output. So...people overestimate battery storage capacity and then get all flustered and confused when those who do know what is going on point out that the battery capacity is a lot less than they think it is.

It's far better to use Watts and Watt-hours to calculate how long a given battery will last.

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Re: New glossary

Sun Nov 04, 2018 8:02 pm

If you include "root" then you need to describe the user "root" and the origin of the file system? Hmmm.... do you then need to describe a file system... :(

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Re: New glossary

Mon Nov 05, 2018 2:59 pm

If the BCM28xx family is in the glossary (with description of differences between them) I would also describe the LANxxxx chip family and the various variations the PI family uses, 2-port 4-port and 10/100 and 10/100/1000 versions.

another one is the A/V (= audio/video) connector.

and what about:

PAL = Phase Alternating Line
and
NTSC = Never the same color (just kidding, it means National Television System Committee)

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Re: New glossary

Mon Nov 05, 2018 3:54 pm

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NTSC = Never the same color (just kidding, it means National Television System Committee)
The version of that I heard....entirely too many years ago...was "Never Twice the Same Color".

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Re: New glossary

Mon Nov 05, 2018 3:58 pm

W. H. Heydt wrote:
Mon Nov 05, 2018 3:54 pm
mahjongg wrote:
Mon Nov 05, 2018 2:59 pm
NTSC = Never the same color (just kidding, it means National Television System Committee)
The version of that I heard....entirely too many years ago...was "Never Twice the Same Color".
Me too.
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Re: New glossary

Mon Nov 05, 2018 3:59 pm

If anyone wishes to add things to the glossary, it's easy enough to send in a PR. Then I can assess it, get it copy edited and merged. I'm a bit lacking in time to add stuff myself at the moment.
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Re: New glossary

Mon Nov 05, 2018 4:10 pm

Perhaps we can put "PR" in the glossary, because I have no idea what you mean.... :mrgreen:

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Re: New glossary

Mon Nov 05, 2018 4:13 pm

Sorry, meant to add this link to the post.

https://www.raspberrypi.org/documentati ... -github.md
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