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Been added to rpi-update firmware (but not in apt yet).
Or you could attach a length of sticky tape as a pull tab, problem solved.
Does this give the answer ?
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country DE: DFS-ETSI
(2400 - 2483 @ 40), (N/A, 20), (N/A)
(5150 - 5250 @ 80), (N/A, 20), (N/A), NO-OUTDOOR, AUTO-BW
(5250 - 5350 @ 80), (N/A, 20), (0 ms), NO-OUTDOOR, DFS, AUTO-BW
(5470 - 5725 @ 160), (N/A, 26), (0 ms), DFS
(5725 - 5875 @ 80), (N/A, 13), (N/A)
(57000 - 66000 @ 2160), (N/A, 40), (N/A)[code]
It may not but look similar to what you are asking.Ordered mine on 3/14 ~6AM EDT.. from https://www.pishop.us/ .. arrived today, 3/16! Shipping was $7.45W. H. Heydt wrote: ↑Fri Mar 16, 2018 5:59 amHave you checked the UK sources? Shipping isn't any more expensive (and may be less) and the transit time is about the same.
Isn't "DE" Germany, not the UK ?bensimmo wrote: ↑Fri Mar 16, 2018 8:06 pmThis is when set to GB for the UKCode: Select all
country DE: DFS-ETSI
That's what I said, but hey ho, it's set to DE.hippy wrote: ↑Sat Mar 17, 2018 1:28 pmIsn't "DE" Germany, not the UK ?bensimmo wrote: ↑Fri Mar 16, 2018 8:06 pmThis is when set to GB for the UKCode: Select all
country DE: DFS-ETSI
We sell so few Pi2, I doubt we will be making any changes. Would never make back the cost of development.pi-anazazi wrote: ↑Sat Mar 17, 2018 3:50 pmI think I'm not alone with my deep disfavour of all device with built-in wifi/BT, therefore my question:
Are there any plans to upgrade the raspi 2 (with the already 64bit CPU...) to include the upgraded LAN? That would be really perfect, as I avoid the raspi 3 wherever possible (and removing driver/FW is not enough in my opinion...).
Would love to see 2B++ with 1.4 GHz and "fast" LAN!
Since there is no Pi2B+ (it's a Pi2Bv1.2, or Pi2B2), that would be a logical progression. On the other hand, I don't think the Pi2B needs to jump all the way to 1.4GHz, not that I'd object if it did. Even a jump to somewhere in the range of 1GHz to 1.2GHz would be reasonable given the current default of 900MHz. There is a sound economic reason for running a lower clock, as well. It enables the use of chips that don't test at the full 1.4GHz instead of just throwing them away (i.e. increased yield of usable chips). Other than that, I agree that a Pi2B+ would be a good upgrade.pi-anazazi wrote: ↑Sat Mar 17, 2018 3:50 pmI think I'm not alone with my deep disfavour of all device with built-in wifi/BT, therefore my question:
Are there any plans to upgrade the raspi 2 (with the already 64bit CPU...) to include the upgraded LAN? That would be really perfect, as I avoid the raspi 3 wherever possible (and removing driver/FW is not enough in my opinion...).
Would love to see 2B++ with 1.4 GHz and "fast" LAN!
Going to play Devil's Advocate here for a moment. How much redesign would be needed? Couldn't a Pi2B+ just be a Pi3B+ without the WiFi/BT parts being fitted?jamesh wrote: ↑Sat Mar 17, 2018 5:35 pmWe sell so few Pi2, I doubt we will be making any changes. Would never make back the cost of development.pi-anazazi wrote: ↑Sat Mar 17, 2018 3:50 pmI think I'm not alone with my deep disfavour of all device with built-in wifi/BT, therefore my question:
Are there any plans to upgrade the raspi 2 (with the already 64bit CPU...) to include the upgraded LAN? That would be really perfect, as I avoid the raspi 3 wherever possible (and removing driver/FW is not enough in my opinion...).
Would love to see 2B++ with 1.4 GHz and "fast" LAN!
W. H. Heydt wrote: ↑Sat Mar 17, 2018 5:46 pmGoing to play Devil's Advocate here for a moment. How much redesign would be needed? Couldn't a Pi2B+ just be a Pi3B+ without the WiFi/BT parts being fitted?jamesh wrote: ↑Sat Mar 17, 2018 5:35 pmWe sell so few Pi2, I doubt we will be making any changes. Would never make back the cost of development.pi-anazazi wrote: ↑Sat Mar 17, 2018 3:50 pmI think I'm not alone with my deep disfavour of all device with built-in wifi/BT, therefore my question:
Are there any plans to upgrade the raspi 2 (with the already 64bit CPU...) to include the upgraded LAN? That would be really perfect, as I avoid the raspi 3 wherever possible (and removing driver/FW is not enough in my opinion...).
Would love to see 2B++ with 1.4 GHz and "fast" LAN!
Please explain why that is not a non-sequitur. Why does it matter if the PWB has a Wi-Fi antenna but the RF chippery is not fitted?fruitoftheloom wrote: ↑Sat Mar 17, 2018 6:48 pmActually not as the RPi 3B+ has a WiFi Antenna similar to a ZeroW, therefore a new mainboard would need to be designed, is it cost effective ????W. H. Heydt wrote: ↑Sat Mar 17, 2018 5:46 pm]Couldn't a Pi2B+ just be a Pi3B+ without the WiFi/BT parts being fitted?
The only thing I can think of would be that the cavity would still radiate any stray signals near it, even in the absence of the connecting circuitry. It *seems* unlikely to be an issue, but RF is funny stuff. If that's that case, then one would think that the "redesign" would be to omit the cavity from that plane, which hardly seems to be a very expensive process. I suspect the required testing with the new power and CPU circuits would be the cost issue, not the board work, per se.drgeoff wrote: ↑Sat Mar 17, 2018 7:17 pmPlease explain why that is not a non-sequitur. Why does it matter if the PWB has a Wi-Fi antenna but the RF chippery is not fitted?fruitoftheloom wrote: ↑Sat Mar 17, 2018 6:48 pmActually not as the RPi 3B+ has a WiFi Antenna similar to a ZeroW, therefore a new mainboard would need to be designed, is it cost effective ????W. H. Heydt wrote: ↑Sat Mar 17, 2018 5:46 pm]Couldn't a Pi2B+ just be a Pi3B+ without the WiFi/BT parts being fitted?
I've withdrawn from these forums recently because of such rubbish [MOD EDIT]. Now I don't care if that's imposed on me. This forum would be a lot less noisy & more instructive if people restricted themselves to commenting on stuff they had the first inkling about.fruitoftheloom wrote: ↑Sat Mar 17, 2018 8:03 pm
The A had the USB Section of the B removed, entirely different scenario, the A+ / B+ was the same scenario as A / B. The LAN951x Chipset was replaced by the Single USB Port.
So unsure what you are trying to convey or is this another of your dreams ??
Bluetooth and Wireless are at the other end of the board than USB, removing these components you would also need to break the wiring to UART & SDIO....
At that quantity, talk to the RPF. It can be done. If you weren't doing an educational project, they would definitely be more than $10 each, but that may not be the case with a defined educational project. (Note that getting Pi0Ws in bulk at $10 each for education is speculation on my part. You *really* need to talk to the RPF about it. Grousing about it on the forums is exactly the wrong way to go about it.)
1. Yes, I know, I own a few pi2 and pi3 for various applications. Just wanted to know if that was still the same for pi3+, as I find it really annoying to remove the card... it's basically impossible to remove the card from the hole on the (official) case without some pliers or similar, as a few others said... not really easy... but I understand that it's hard to please all people... but well if friction will still be used on new versions, etc... then maybe the case needs some change... maybe a bigger/different hole... maybe with a cover or something...jdb wrote: ↑Thu Mar 15, 2018 10:54 pm1. the push-push slot was replaced for a friction fit slot on Pi 3, 2 years ago.nars wrote: ↑Thu Mar 15, 2018 10:31 pmDoes it still have the annoying non-spring-loaded microsd slot?
Pity that there is still no wifi connector for external wifi antenna... rf shielding is fun with internal antenna just at side of the chip
2. you should buy a better HDMI cable if you're experiencing interference issues. I'm not sure what good an external antenna connector would do if your HDMI cable was blasting RF interference all over the place.
Is this using NOOBS or Raspbian download?rsterz wrote: ↑Sun Mar 18, 2018 7:38 amJust received my 3B+ on Friday and installed everything yesterday. Unfortunately it crashed twice already without installing more software than Raspbian OS showing memory errors on the console. Power supply is original Raspberry one, changed SD card to another one for testing. No change in stability as it crashed again. The Pi is only connected via Ethernet. HDMI and USB are unplugged.
The only configuration so far was done by raspi-config to activate SSH daemon and setting up LAN, reducing GPU memory to 16MB and changing localisation. And I did an update of the packages with apt-get.
Any idea if it is related to the current software version? Otherwise the Pi will go back for replacement.
I am simply suggesting not fitting the WiFi/BT electrical parts on a Pi3B+ and calling that a Pi 2B+. As W. H. Heydt had suggested earlier.fruitoftheloom wrote: ↑Sat Mar 17, 2018 8:03 pm
The A had the USB Section of the B removed, entirely different scenario, the A+ / B+ was the same scenario as A / B. The LAN951x Chipset was replaced by the Single USB Port.
So unsure what you are trying to convey or is this another of your dreams ??
Bluetooth and Wireless are at the other end of the board than USB, removing these components you would also need to break the wiring to UART & SDIO....
Why not just use a 3B+ and turn off the WIFI? Instead of getting a soldering iron out? Not meaning to start anything, just honestly wondering why go to the trouble of de soldering stuff you can just turn off? Granted, a Pi Foundation 2B+ would likely cost less than a 3B+ but would it be worth the effort? Me personally, I'd be more interested in a 3A or 3A+ than a 2B+. I have several headless setups that don't need Ethernet or 4 USB ports. I currently us an A+ or a Pi Zero W if I need WIFI.hippy wrote: ↑Sun Mar 18, 2018 5:07 pmI am simply suggesting not fitting the WiFi/BT electrical parts on a Pi3B+ and calling that a Pi 2B+. As W. H. Heydt had suggested earlier.fruitoftheloom wrote: ↑Sat Mar 17, 2018 8:03 pm
The A had the USB Section of the B removed, entirely different scenario, the A+ / B+ was the same scenario as A / B. The LAN951x Chipset was replaced by the Single USB Port.
So unsure what you are trying to convey or is this another of your dreams ??
Bluetooth and Wireless are at the other end of the board than USB, removing these components you would also need to break the wiring to UART & SDIO....
It is not exactly "a dream" it is something anyone can produce at home if they so desired and had the appropriate desoldering equipment.
I don't see how it would "break" the wiring to UART and SDIO. It's true that the signals won't then go anywhere but that shouldn't "break" things electrically. Likewise WiFi/BT and SoC being at opposite ends of the boards should not really affect things.
Perhaps some pull-ups or pull-downs might need to be fitted if the WiFi/BT parts are removed to stop signals floating but it would probably be easy to design a new revision of the Pi 3B+ board to cater for either Pi 3B+ or Pi 2B+ assembly on the same board. It shouldn't need a full board and completely new board design just to not fit WiFi/BT parts.
Maybe someone will unsolder the WiFi/BT parts and report back how well that worked.
