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Which package will be more suitable for me?

Mon Sep 11, 2017 3:18 pm

Hi all,

I'm prepared to test booting on USB. On the download page;
Download
https://www.raspberrypi.org/downloads/

There are 2 images;
1. Noobs
2. Raspbian

I'm now running Raspbian on the microSD card without problem. I have been running Linux for years.

What is the difference between Noobs and Raspbian?
Shall I install Noobs addtional to Raspbian?

Thanks in advance.

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satimis

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Re: Which package will be more suitable for me?

Mon Sep 11, 2017 3:31 pm

NOOBS is an OS installer not an OS. It was designed to help people who have no idea what they're doing and seems to cause more problems than it solves. Stick to Raspbian!
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Re: Which package will be more suitable for me?

Mon Sep 11, 2017 3:42 pm

Use Raspbian, Noobs is for less experienced users.
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Re: Which package will be more suitable for me?

Mon Sep 11, 2017 5:23 pm

NOOBs allows the user to install more than one OS on a single SD card then choose which OS to boot.

Also the user can re install an OS if corrupted without having to put the SD card back into the Windows/MAC/Linux desktop. Note that all user data will be lost unless backed up somewhere else.

IMO installing multiple OS is the only reason to use NOOBs.
Unless specified otherwise my response is based on the latest and fully updated Raspbian Buster w/ Desktop OS.

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Re: Which package will be more suitable for me?

Mon Sep 11, 2017 5:25 pm

klricks wrote:
Mon Sep 11, 2017 5:23 pm
IMO installing multiple OS is the only reason to use NOOBs.
I think that it's much better to use multiple SD cards.
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Re: Which package will be more suitable for me?

Mon Sep 11, 2017 6:43 pm

Hi all,

Lot of thanks for your advice

Satimis

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Re: Which package will be more suitable for me?

Mon Sep 11, 2017 7:52 pm

Hi All,

A further question.

For installing MS Windows I need to download NOOBS on;

Download
https://www.raspberrypi.org/downloads/
download the package according to the desktop pc which we'll use to write the image

7-Zip (Windows)
The Unarchiver (Mac)
Unzip (Linux)

Then write the image on the microSD card according to following link;

Installing operating system images using Windows
https://www.raspberrypi.org/documentati ... windows.md

After finish plugin the microSD card on Raspberry Pi and the USB stick with MS Windows OS image loaded.

Then boot up NOOBS and install MS Windows on the microSD card.

If I'm wrong please advise me.

Thanks

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Re: Which package will be more suitable for me?

Mon Sep 11, 2017 10:21 pm

klricks wrote:
Mon Sep 11, 2017 5:23 pm
IMO installing multiple OS is the only reason to use NOOBs.
If I had any desire to do that I'd use the NOOBS forked version PINN (as it's got some features that NOOBS is missing (like password resetting)).
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Re: Which package will be more suitable for me?

Tue Sep 12, 2017 12:12 am

satimis wrote:
Mon Sep 11, 2017 7:52 pm
Hi All,

A further question.

For installing MS Windows I need to download NOOBS on;

Download
https://www.raspberrypi.org/downloads/
download the package according to the desktop pc which we'll use to write the image

7-Zip (Windows)
The Unarchiver (Mac)
Unzip (Linux)

Then write the image on the microSD card according to following link;

Installing operating system images using Windows
https://www.raspberrypi.org/documentati ... windows.md

After finish plugin the microSD card on Raspberry Pi and the USB stick with MS Windows OS image loaded.

Then boot up NOOBS and install MS Windows on the microSD card.

If I'm wrong please advise me.

Thanks

Regards
satimis
You are confusing 2 different OS install methods.

With the NOOBs method you download the NOObs file then unzip it. Then drag and drop the files and folders to the root level of a properly formatted the SD card.
Then boot the SD card in the RPi. The NOOBS installer will then ask which OS you want to install. The recommended OS is Raspbian. You must have an Internet connection to install any OS other than Raspbian.

With the standalone (Raspbian) method you use the special installer software Etcher to install the image. If Etcher is used then it will unzip AND write the image to the SD card. If other software is used such as Win32diskimager then you must first unzip the image before writing. When written to the SD card. Just boot it in the RPi and you are done.

Once installed the Raspbian or other OS are the same with either method.

You mentioned Windows OS. Only Windows IOT can be installed on a RPi. If you don't know what Windows IOT is about then don't install it, it will be useless to you. Windows IOT is NOT the same OS that you might be using on a desktop or laptop computer and standard Windows applications such as MS Office can NOT be used in Windows IOT.

Windows IOT can be installed by either NOOBs or stand alone method.

There are detailed instruction links on the download pages. NOOBs or standalone.
Unless specified otherwise my response is based on the latest and fully updated Raspbian Buster w/ Desktop OS.

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Re: Which package will be more suitable for me?

Tue Sep 12, 2017 7:38 am

klricks wrote:
Tue Sep 12, 2017 12:12 am
You are confusing 2 different OS install methods.

With the NOOBs method you download the NOObs file then unzip it. Then drag and drop the files and folders to the root level of a properly formatted the SD card.
Then boot the SD card in the RPi. The NOOBS installer will then ask which OS you want to install. The recommended OS is Raspbian. You must have an Internet connection to install any OS other than Raspbian.

With the standalone (Raspbian) method you use the special installer software Etcher to install the image. If Etcher is used then it will unzip AND write the image to the SD card. If other software is used such as Win32diskimager then you must first unzip the image before writing. When written to the SD card. Just boot it in the RPi and you are done.

Once installed the Raspbian or other OS are the same with either method.

You mentioned Windows OS. Only Windows IOT can be installed on a RPi. If you don't know what Windows IOT is about then don't install it, it will be useless to you. Windows IOT is NOT the same OS that you might be using on a desktop or laptop computer and standard Windows applications such as MS Office can NOT be used in Windows IOT.

Windows IOT can be installed by either NOOBs or stand alone method.

There are detailed instruction links on the download pages. NOOBs or standalone.
Thanks for your advice.

I'll cease testing Windows IOT and continue my test to booting on USB

satimis

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