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Re: STICKY: NEW FORUM SKIN - Comments here please.

Posted: Sun Jul 30, 2017 2:14 pm
by scruss
mattmiller wrote:
Sun Jul 30, 2017 12:27 pm
You had to do a little dance with old prosilver - but now its just perfect :)
Except there's no favicon in prosilver, and that's a dealbreaker for me. Favicons don't just help me with tab identification; I also have a bookmarks toolbar showing 35 favicons and no text at the top of the screen.

Re: STICKY: NEW FORUM SKIN - Comments here please.

Posted: Sun Jul 30, 2017 9:00 pm
by jamesh
scruss wrote:
Sun Jul 30, 2017 2:14 pm
mattmiller wrote:
Sun Jul 30, 2017 12:27 pm
You had to do a little dance with old prosilver - but now its just perfect :)
Except there's no favicon in prosilver, and that's a dealbreaker for me. Favicons don't just help me with tab identification; I also have a bookmarks toolbar showing 35 favicons and no text at the top of the screen.
Probably showing my age, but what is a favicon?

Re: STICKY: NEW FORUM SKIN - Comments here please.

Posted: Sun Jul 30, 2017 9:30 pm
by DirkS
jamesh wrote:
Sun Jul 30, 2017 9:00 pm
Probably showing my age, but what is a favicon?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Favicon

Re: STICKY: NEW FORUM SKIN - Comments here please.

Posted: Sun Jul 30, 2017 9:44 pm
by beta-tester
DirkS wrote:
Sun Jul 30, 2017 9:30 pm
jamesh wrote:
Sun Jul 30, 2017 9:00 pm
scruss wrote:
Sun Jul 30, 2017 2:14 pm
Except there's no favicon in prosilver, and that's a dealbreaker for me. Favicons don't just help me with tab identification; I also have a bookmarks toolbar showing 35 favicons and no text at the top of the screen.
Probably showing my age, but what is a favicon?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Favicon
and what favicon was meant here?
that from the website?
in RPI and prosilver the website always has the same web favicon (the raspberry pi logo)

Re: STICKY: NEW FORUM SKIN - Comments here please.

Posted: Sun Jul 30, 2017 9:55 pm
by davidcoton
beta-tester wrote:
Sun Jul 30, 2017 9:44 pm
in RPI and prosilver the website always has the same web favicon (the raspberry pi logo)
Using Firefox on Win10
I see the Raspberry icon on the browser tab using RPI, but no icon with prosilver.

Re: STICKY: NEW FORUM SKIN - Comments here please.

Posted: Sun Jul 30, 2017 10:37 pm
by rurwin
I agree; no icon on prosilver.

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Posted: Sun Jul 30, 2017 11:34 pm
by scruss
jamesh wrote:
Sun Jul 30, 2017 9:00 pm
Probably showing my age, but what is a favicon?
The berry-lookin' doohickey here in the tab and in my favourites bar:
Screenshot from 2017-07-30 19-26-43.png
favicons galore!
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Definitely missing (for now) in prosilver.

Re: STICKY: NEW FORUM SKIN - Comments here please.

Posted: Mon Jul 31, 2017 1:25 am
by Martin Frezman
Note that this has been missing for quite some time now.


I noticed that my tab was unadorned (blank) for the RPI board at least a month ago (probably 2 or 3). It is still blank as we speak, and I don't think it matters which skin you use.

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Posted: Mon Jul 31, 2017 4:18 am
by mline
Default skin dont work for me (no google servers allowed here ;) ) but the phpBB skin is great.

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Posted: Mon Jul 31, 2017 9:14 am
by rurwin
Here are the HTML <head> sections.

RPI
RPIHead.png
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Prosilver
ProsilverHead.png
ProsilverHead.png (25.67 KiB) Viewed 5015 times

Re: STICKY: NEW FORUM SKIN - Comments here please.

Posted: Mon Jul 31, 2017 9:30 am
by mikerr
Seem to have lost one of the domain records at the same time as the forum upgrade: forums.raspberrypi.org

Quite a few web links use that - at first I thought the forum was down...

Re: STICKY: NEW FORUM SKIN - Comments here please.

Posted: Mon Jul 31, 2017 9:54 am
by grega
A new feature of the `rpi` theme:

Re: STICKY: NEW FORUM SKIN - Comments here please.

Posted: Mon Jul 31, 2017 10:13 am
by Pete_Stevens
We've never had an IPv4 address for forums.raspberrypi.org, that's always been a v6 only link direct to the backend webserver for monitoring which probably should have been more firewalled than it was.

So whilst it's nice that some people were using v6 only accessible services, I'm not going to reenable it, if only because it makes IP based spam filtering much harder to implement.

Re: STICKY: NEW FORUM SKIN - Comments here please.

Posted: Mon Jul 31, 2017 10:17 am
by jamesh
Re: Favicons. Work fine for me...have done for years. Not sure what others are seeing.

Re: Full width - Thanks Greg, looks great.

Re: STICKY: NEW FORUM SKIN - Comments here please.

Posted: Mon Jul 31, 2017 10:51 am
by mikerr
Pete_Stevens wrote:
Mon Jul 31, 2017 10:13 am
We've never had an IPv4 address for forums.raspberrypi.org, that's always been a v6 only link direct to the backend webserver for monitoring which probably should have been more firewalled than it was.

So whilst it's nice that some people were using v6 only accessible services, I'm not going to reenable it, if only because it makes IP based spam filtering much harder to implement.
Ok, so a recent firewall change caused it?

Google has indexed it though, so every one of these ~6,500 links now don't work:
https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=site% ... errypi.org

Over the past few days quite a few of my google searches have ended up at that dns error.

Re: STICKY: NEW FORUM SKIN - Comments here please.

Posted: Mon Jul 31, 2017 10:58 am
by DougieLawson
mikerr wrote:
Mon Jul 31, 2017 10:51 am
Ok, so a recent firewall change caused it?

Google has indexed it though, so every one of these now doesn't work:
https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=site% ... errypi.org

Over the past few days quite a few of my google searches have ended up at that dns error.
It works for me.

I've got a HE tunnel & radvd (route advertiser daemon) running on a Raspberry.
https://tunnelbroker.net/
That gets a simple/free IPv6-in-IPv4 tunnel. The only hard part was disabling dhcpcd on that Raspberry so I could use the old fashioned /etc/network/interfaces for the IPv6 tunnel. The "hard part" is running an IPv6 firewall on each Raspberry as my home router can't filter/block the IPv6 traffic.

Re: STICKY: NEW FORUM SKIN - Comments here please.

Posted: Mon Jul 31, 2017 11:17 am
by rurwin
jamesh wrote:
Mon Jul 31, 2017 10:17 am
Re: Favicons. Work fine for me...have done for years. Not sure what others are seeing.
Well they are definitely not there for me, as shown in the HTML above. What theme, browser and OS are you using?

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Posted: Mon Jul 31, 2017 12:26 pm
by Martin Frezman
Heh heh. I just noticed now that, for the first time in month(s), the icon (in the tab bar of my browser) is back. So, something must have gotten fixed since I last posted.

Note: Just to make this perfectly clear, the tab bar icons for all my other sites are and always have been working fine. It is just the one for the RPI forum (this forum in which I am typing at the moment) that had been failing.

But, as noted, it is working now, although it seems to flash on and off a bit.

Re: STICKY: NEW FORUM SKIN - Comments here please.

Posted: Mon Jul 31, 2017 1:25 pm
by Pete_Stevens
forums.raspberrypi.org was a domain name used for internal monitoring of the back-end server that was never intended to be public.

When we did the migration of the forums we moved to a new backend VM on a different IPv6 address. Since we're now complete we've switched off the old VMs so the servers have gone away. For the last week forums.raspberrypi.org has been out of date pointing at the old servers.

I'm not going to re-enable it for the following reasons,

- Direct public access to the back-end was never intended to be available
- In future we may have multiple back-end web servers and it'd need to be load balanced
- It doesn't support SSL and we don't want to allow insecure logins
- A future upgrade intends to migrate to Proxy-Protocol to simply our configuration which will stop it working

The supported URL is https://www.raspberrypi.org/forums

Re: STICKY: NEW FORUM SKIN - Comments here please.

Posted: Mon Jul 31, 2017 1:27 pm
by mattmiller
Yippee - hamburger menu available at all times (well all the time I need it anyway) in RPi theme
Thanks :)

Re: STICKY: NEW FORUM SKIN - Comments here please.

Posted: Mon Jul 31, 2017 1:51 pm
by grega
mattmiller wrote:
Mon Jul 31, 2017 1:27 pm
Yippee - hamburger menu available at all times (well all the time I need it anyway) in RPi theme
Thanks :)
A few updates have been deployed to RPi this morning, this being one of them.

On that note, we've moved users on the raspberry_pi theme onto RPi since it provides a much better experience in general (now that we've had the chance to properly test RPi over the last week) and it's also the default for all guests & new users. It's still possible to switch back to the raspberry_pi theme via your Board Preferences. Current Prosilver users are unaffected (and Prosilver will continue to be an option available under Board Preferences).

Re: STICKY: NEW FORUM SKIN - Comments here please.

Posted: Mon Jul 31, 2017 2:00 pm
by rurwin
Twitter has just announced the new theme (RPI) is available. So maybe the icon was fixed at the same time as that was rolled out. I did switch to RPI and back to Prosilver, so there's a chance that did it, but the icon is now in the Prosilver header that I'm getting and it wasn't before so I think it was fixed.

Re: STICKY: NEW FORUM SKIN - Comments here please.

Posted: Mon Jul 31, 2017 2:01 pm
by grega
rurwin wrote:
Mon Jul 31, 2017 2:00 pm
but the icon is now in the Prosilver header that I'm getting and it wasn't before so I think it was fixed.
Yep favicons have been fixed on raspberry_pi & Prosilver!

Re: STICKY: NEW FORUM SKIN - Comments here please.

Posted: Mon Jul 31, 2017 2:19 pm
by jamesh
grega wrote:
Mon Jul 31, 2017 2:01 pm
rurwin wrote:
Mon Jul 31, 2017 2:00 pm
but the icon is now in the Prosilver header that I'm getting and it wasn't before so I think it was fixed.
Yep favicons have been fixed on raspberry_pi & Prosilver!
Weird, they have always worked for me anyway.....I have no idea how. It might be my stunning good looks.

Re: STICKY: NEW FORUM SKIN - Comments here please.

Posted: Mon Jul 31, 2017 5:00 pm
by davidcoton
grega wrote:
Mon Jul 31, 2017 1:51 pm
A few updates have been deployed to RPi this morning, this being one of them.
Congatulations on a great job all round, smooth upgrade and impressively quick responses not just to bugs but also feature requests.
Respect to everyone involved.