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Pi Zerow, no WIFI

Posted: Sun Apr 30, 2017 4:07 am
by crashboogie
PiZeroW says no interfaces, WIFI not turning on, read that it may need an update. Any way to get Wifi without Net connection? Noobs 2.4, tried messing with etc/network/interfaces and no luck, not going to buy the Ethernet adapter (defeats the purpose of having wifi, that and I'd only use it once to update). Is there any way to update this ridiculous thing without net connection? Or some command I'm missing to enable the wifi? Something like "sudo /etc/init.d/turn thef*$&ingwifionbeforeIOfficeSpaceyou"

Re: Pi Zerow, no WIFI

Posted: Sun Apr 30, 2017 6:13 am
by Gavinmc42
Probably will need an update.

Re: Pi Zerow, no WIFI

Posted: Sun Apr 30, 2017 7:23 am
by pi_everalm
Try setting the Pi up as an Ethernet 'gadget', may get you past the network connection issue to allow an update

https://learn.adafruit.com/turning-your ... net-gadget

Re: Pi Zerow, no WIFI

Posted: Sun Apr 30, 2017 7:48 am
by DougieLawson
Gavinmc42 wrote:Probably will need an update.
More likely needs an SDCard with Raspbian 2017-04-10 or NOOBS 2.4 with the right fimware/bootcode to drive the PiZW hardware.

Re: Pi Zerow, no WIFI

Posted: Sun Apr 30, 2017 3:50 pm
by W. H. Heydt
DougieLawson wrote:
Gavinmc42 wrote:Probably will need an update.
More likely needs an SDCard with Raspbian 2017-04-10 or NOOBS 2.4 with the right fimware/bootcode to drive the PiZW hardware.
He said he's using NOOBS 2.4 so it *ought* to be sufficiently up to date for the Pi0W. However, updating the system is generally a good start.

Re: Pi Zerow, no WIFI

Posted: Sun Apr 30, 2017 5:54 pm
by crashboogie
The Ethernet 'gadget' was a good idea. But I set everything up and tried to connect and ended up connecting to my other pi on the network. Looked for the Pi Zero on the Device Manager and nothing on the COM ports or anything. Think I might just have to break down and buy the damn ethernet adapter. Anybody have one they want to send to me to borrow for an hour? I'll send it back right away lol

Re: Pi Zerow, no WIFI

Posted: Sun Apr 30, 2017 7:01 pm
by Jednorozec
USB to Ethernet adapters are pretty cheap from China.

Re: Pi Zerow, no WIFI

Posted: Sun Apr 30, 2017 7:48 pm
by crashboogie
I actually had a thought that I'm not 100% will work or not, but I just ran the apt-get rpi-update, apt-get dist-upgrade, etc etc on my Pi3 and I'm copying the SD card and I'll just plug in the copied card into my Pizero. Any downfalls to this? Any command I need to enter to enable the wifi once it boots and such?

Re: Pi Zerow, no WIFI

Posted: Sun Apr 30, 2017 8:00 pm
by crashboogie
nope, no love there either. Even the WPA supllicant conf file has all the network credentials already in there. Still says no interfaces. Should've just bought the Pi3 again.

Re: Pi Zerow, no WIFI

Posted: Sun Apr 30, 2017 8:00 pm
by DougieLawson
If you run sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get -y dist-upgrade that will get you a 4.9.24+ kernel and latest bootcode which is not a bad thing.

DO NOT run sudo rpi-update [ever] unless you completely understand what it does and know how to recover if it causes your RPi to not boot. rpi-update is used to get the testing/development kernel and bootcode and that can be exceedingly experimental and unstable.

Re: Pi Zerow, no WIFI

Posted: Sun Apr 30, 2017 8:52 pm
by HawaiianPi
crashboogie wrote:nope, no love there either. Even the WPA supllicant conf file has all the network credentials already in there. Still says no interfaces. Should've just bought the Pi3 again.
Okay, obvious/silly question, are you sure it is a Pi-Zero-W and not just a Pi-Zero?

Also, are you using it with a keyboard, mouse and monitor, or are your trying to SSH into it?

Assuming you have keyboard, mouse and screen, and you are SURE it is a "W" version, then try the latest Raspbian Pixel image. NOOBS 2.4 *should* work out of the box, but it is a middle-man installer so more can go wrong when setting it up.

Grab the latest Raspbian Jessie with Pixel here: https://www.raspberrypi.org/downloads/raspbian/ and write it to your microSD card using Etcher: https://etcher.io/

Note that you don't even need to extract the image from the zip, Etcher can write the image directly from the archive.

You can verify the download integrity by comparing the SHA1 hash value with the one on the download page.
To do that in Windows I use a shell extension called, HashCheck: https://github.com/gurnec/HashCheck/releases/latest
(Right-click on file > Properties > Checksums tab)

Re: Pi Zerow, no WIFI

Posted: Sun Apr 30, 2017 9:02 pm
by crashboogie
The Raspian w Pixel was actually the first OS I tried, then I moved to Noobs thinking the wifi didnt like Raspian for some reason. I would LOVE to be able to SSH into it but again no net connection and couldn't get the gadget thing suggested above to work. I did find this post and was going to give it a shot after some homework https://github.com/ccrisan/motioneyeos/issues/804 after that I'll likely just order the damn Micro USB to Ethernet adapter. So dumb that they're like "a ten dollar Raspberry Pi board!!!! as long as you have the 6 dozen adapters needed to get it setup" :x

Re: Pi Zerow, no WIFI

Posted: Sun Apr 30, 2017 9:20 pm
by HawaiianPi
crashboogie wrote:The Raspian w Pixel was actually the first OS I tried, then I moved to Noobs thinking the wifi didnt like Raspian for some reason...
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So dumb that they're like "a ten dollar Raspberry Pi board!!!! as long as you have the 6 dozen adapters needed to get it setup" :x
If you have tried both the latest NOOBS and Raspbian image, and you are SURE it is a Pi-Zero-W, then it may be defective. Both of those systems should work out of the box with all models of the Raspberry Pi currently available.

And yes, I have mentioned many a time that the Pi3 is the best Pi to start with, because the Zero isn't much cheaper if you need all the extra bits to get it going (mini2HDMI, microUSB-OTG, hub, etc.). The Zero is really the end-point project computer you use to build your little doo-dad invention that was developed on your Pi3. It's a poor choice as a stand-alone computer. The Pi3 not only has standard size HDMI and USB (so you don't need adapters), it has 4 USB ports (so you don't need a hub), and both Ethernet & WiFi (again, less extra stuff needed), and it is 7-8 times faster than the Zero (newer, more efficient quad-core 1.2GHz vs older single core 1GHz).