Cromarty
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Pixel for x86 and accessibility

Mon Jan 02, 2017 2:00 pm

Hello

Why, when Debian was remastered to produce the 'Pixel for x86' Live .iso, were all the Debian accessibility options that make it the best distro for blind people like me removed?

I have burned the image to DVD and Orca is not listed in the installed packages.

Consequently it is not possible for a blind person to get up and running without sighted assistance.

This is a retrograde step from the Debian and Ubuntu Live .iso images.

I know LXDE is not the best desktop for accessibility anyway but I acknowledge and accept it is the lightest so is the most suitable for a Pi.

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Re: Pixel for x86 and accessibility

Mon Jan 02, 2017 2:18 pm

Cromarty wrote:Hello

Why, when Debian was remastered to produce the 'Pixel for x86' Live .iso, were all the Debian accessibility options that make it the best distro for blind people like me removed?

I have burned the image to DVD and Orca is not listed in the installed packages.

Consequently it is not possible for a blind person to get up and running without sighted assistance.

This is a retrograde step from the Debian and Ubuntu Live .iso images.

I know LXDE is not the best desktop for accessibility anyway but I acknowledge and accept it is the lightest so is the most suitable for a Pi.

Mike

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sudo apt-get install gnome-orca
https://packages.debian.org/jessie/gnome-orca

https://wiki.debian.org/Orca
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Re: Pixel for x86 and accessibility

Mon Jan 02, 2017 2:29 pm

Hi.

Debian Pixel mirrors the Raspbian Pixel image , including similar packages where licencing issues permit - the aim being to make them resemble each other.

If Orca isn't in the Raspbian image, it won't be included the Debian Pixel image either. So it's not been deliberately removed to put you at a disadvantage.

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Re: Pixel for x86 and accessibility

Mon Jan 02, 2017 3:24 pm

As above, it is a testing version as well so they are wanting feedback.
In the blog for its announcement it was mentioned there too about accessibility, since it's naff on the Pi as well.
It is something they are wanting to look into and want to k kw where to target their efforts and perhaps how.
I gave them some ideas (since it's useful in school) and also making it touch friendly as it not good at that either. Touch help a lot of children out accessibility wise too, that another for use on IWB/touch screen large monitors etc in the classroom.

It need a lot doing to it, even Microsoft keep adding and tweaking what they offer and they do it pretty well.

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