With faster computers larger neural networks can be built. Even though most of the mathematics remains unchanged, as the size increases it becomes possible to train the neutral networks to do interesting things that would be difficult to achieve with conventional programming techniques. With the advent of GPU accelerators use of large neural networks has become practical.fd1 wrote:Is it possible? How about doing machine learning stuff? Anyone done this before?
How does this "good example" relate to computers or AI? AI isn't a fantasy invented to look cool or impress girls. It may come as a shock to you that some people aren't interested in looking cool or impressing anyone (either male or female).johnb_summers wrote:I think AI is a fantasy invented by the "gee whizz kids" to look cool and impress girls, like many of the fantasy's that involve computers, good example, just recently they discovered a planet going round our nearest sun 4 light years away, found it with ease, an astronomer was asked why did it take so long to discover, he said its over the south pole and the telescopes that can see it don't have beaches, beach babes and no where to drive a fast cars, think that says it all.
so Automated Interaction and not Artificial Intelligence but don't sound as sexy does it, Gee Whiz where's the coolness in that.Paeryn wrote:It's about creating systems that can behave in an intelligent way, that is ones that can respond to stimuli, learn what works to improve its situation and what doesn't, and to use that information when deciding what to do next.
The name might not be the best description in the world, but it serves its purpose.
"Machine Learning" considered harmful
It is often said that it requires an element of intuition, but machine learning has beat a human.In fact, the number of possible variations in just the first 40 moves of a Go game on a 19x19 board already surpasses the number of atoms in the universe.
I think it is very interesting that, without changing much else, as the size of a neutral network gets bigger it is able to learn how to do tasks that otherwise would be very difficult to program. Apparently the transition to usefulness happens when the number of layers in the network increase beyond eight. Only recently this became practical to achieve with GPU accelerators that are thousands of times faster than a Pi. However, as with many things, the Pi computers are good enough for learning concepts, even when not powerful enough for practical applications.Heater wrote:I'm not convinced that AI or ML has advance much since Cynthia. It just got bigger.
While possibly disturbing, I don't see how neural networks being able to learn complex tasks proves humans are machines. Dogs easily learn to recognize people and horses can autonomously navigate the roads while pulling a cart. There are and will be many more tasks that computers do better than humans. Mankind is distinguished not by the ability of thinking or doing, but by the gift moral responsibility.Heater wrote:A disturbing answer, to many, would be "Yes". Disturbing because it would prove that we are nothing more than machines.
That is a big if. Can we? Should we? Will we ever?Heater wrote:if we build a perfect ejolson emulator
Oh yeah, let's not go there. It could go around in circles for ever.It's probably a mistake to conflate intelligence with consciousness, that quickly gets you into some deep philosophical mires.
Yes. Then the question is: If it's not possible, in principle, to make an emulation of a human because of "whatever it is that makes humans unique", then what is that thing?Maybe it is just not possible to make a perfect emulation of a person. Maybe that is because of whatever it is that makes humans unique.
But, but, a non-human thing built humans in the first place. Seemingly did not require any intelligence to do so either!Now if a non-human intelligence built the perfect human emulator, that would be a whole different ball game.
That's debatable, but too far off topic for here and now.Heater wrote:But, but, a non-human thing built humans in the first place. Seemingly did not require any intelligence to do so either!