How to take the Geek out of a RPI

[herewego]

Does anyone know how to take the Geek out of Rasberry Pi. I want to use a RPi in one or more practical machine control situations. Trying to find information as to how to set up an interface from Netbeans on Windows 7 has been a nightmare. Just dozens of different ways to do it none of which work. Loads of "experts" talking the talk but nothing down to earth in non Geek speak.
Anyone any ideas please.
Windows 7 rpi 3 B

[W. H. Heydt]

"There are nine and sixty ways of constructing tribal lays, and every single one of them is right." --Rudyard Kipling.

You're dealing with a technical subject that has many different ways to be solved. What, other than technical answers do you expect? The solution is to pick the one that works for you, and if you don't understand a given solution, then it isn't the right one for you.

[BMS Doug]

Does anyone know how to take the Geek out of Rasberry Pi. I want to use a RPi in one or more practical machine control situations. Trying to find information as to how to set up an interface from Netbeans on Windows 7 has been a nightmare. Just dozens of different ways to do it none of which work. Loads of "experts" talking the talk but nothing down to earth in non Geek speak.
Anyone any ideas please.
Windows 7 rpi 3 B

Many of the posters on these forums are adapt at explaining things in simple terms, I've checked your previous posts but I don't see anything explaining the issue you are trying to resolve.

Here's a quick guide to getting the best results from these forums:

Step one: Preamble: brief descritiption of your situation.

Step two: Define Problem: exactly what you want to acheive.

Step three: Progress: What you have tried so far and what happened.


As I understand it you are a retired engineer who is looking to learn to use microcontrollers for your personal projects.

The current issue you are trying to resolve is communicating between a Windows PC and a Raspberry Pi by using Netbeans (Java development platform) on the windows PC.
You have done some internet research but haven't been able to make sense of the results (please add links to the topics you found).

I'm not sure what you are trying to achieve during this communication, please add more details as to what you want to do.

I'm not the best person for this topic, but if you find that you are unable to understand the answers that you get on this topic then I can try to translate them from Geek to English.

I hope we can help you.

[fruitoftheloom]

Does anyone know how to take the Geek out of Rasberry Pi. I want to use a RPi in one or more practical machine control situations. Trying to find information as to how to set up an interface from Netbeans on Windows 7 has been a nightmare. Just dozens of different ways to do it none of which work. Loads of "experts" talking the talk but nothing down to earth in non Geek speak.
Anyone any ideas please.
Windows 7 rpi 3 B

How did you install Windows 7 on a RPi 3B ?? or have you installed a different OS ??


https://docs.oracle.com/javame/8.2/get- ... nstall.htm
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[Heater]

Simplify.

1) Don't use netbeans.

2) Don't use Windows.

Now, before we all try and think of ways to do whatever. What actually is it you want to do? If we knew that we might be able to advise.

[herewego]

"There are nine and sixty ways of constructing tribal lays, and every single one of them is right." --Rudyard Kipling.

You're dealing with a technical subject that has many different ways to be solved. What, other than technical answers do you expect? The solution is to pick the one that works for you, and if you don't understand a given solution, then it isn't the right one for you.

Many thanks for you reply and for pointing out a quote from a Rudyard Kipling's poem, which I hadn't heard before. Whatever a "Tribal Lay" is.
I feel you've missed my point. In two regards - Firstly Geeks. I'm not sure if it's best illustrated by using my two son-in-laws as examples. They speak fluent Geek, they know all the jargon but couldn't put a project together to save their skins. I'm an ancient mechanical engineer. My electronic engineers would produce the circuits, write the low level code and I could then program my machines to do what I wanted them to do. No Geek involved and we produced machines used all over the world, particualrly in the USA.
Secondly; If there are 69 ways to solve my problem I wonder why it's taken so long for me to find a working one.
As it happens, more by luck than judgment, I now have Netbeans working and have compiled a "Hello world" program from my PC into the Rpi.
The quest continues.
Thanks again and I love your reference to RK.
John

[B.Goode]

No poetry from me, just the prosaic...

In the spirit of those forums being a place where users help other users with problems, could I encourage you to say a little about the solution you hit on? Someone else might benefit from that knowledge and be saved the frustration you experienced.

[W. H. Heydt]

"There are nine and sixty ways of constructing tribal lays, and every single one of them is right." --Rudyard Kipling.

You're dealing with a technical subject that has many different ways to be solved. What, other than technical answers do you expect? The solution is to pick the one that works for you, and if you don't understand a given solution, then it isn't the right one for you.

Many thanks for you reply and for pointing out a quote from a Rudyard Kipling's poem, which I hadn't heard before. Whatever a "Tribal Lay" is.
I feel you've missed my point. In two regards - Firstly Geeks. I'm not sure if it's best illustrated by using my two son-in-laws as examples. They speak fluent Geek, they know all the jargon but couldn't put a project together to save their skins. I'm an ancient mechanical engineer. My electronic engineers would produce the circuits, write the low level code and I could then program my machines to do what I wanted them to do. No Geek involved and we produced machines used all over the world, particualrly in the USA.
Secondly; If there are 69 ways to solve my problem I wonder why it's taken so long for me to find a working one.
As it happens, more by luck than judgment, I now have Netbeans working and have compiled a "Hello world" program from my PC into the Rpi.
The quest continues.
Thanks again and I love your reference to RK.
John

"Lay" is just a synonym for "song". Kipling was being poetic. The line is--repeatedly--from Kipling's "In the Neolithic Age" and is well worth reading.

Since you have your sons-in-law as resources, may I suggest another analogy as a way to solve the problem... There is a 16th century work on German mining and metallurgy called "De Re Metallica". By about 100 years after it was published, no one could read it because the author had invented Latin terms for the then-current German technology, and the terms and technology had changed. The book was finally translated in the early 20th century by a combination of a Classical scholar and a Mining Engineer.

What I suggest you do it to get your sons-in-law to translate the electronics jargon into something you can understand and then use your practical skills to implement the design.

FYI...the Mining Engineer later went--successfully--into politics. You may have heard of him...Herbert Hoover. The Classical scholar was his wife, Catherine Hoover.

[ejolson]

As it happens, more by luck than judgment, I now have Netbeans working and have compiled a "Hello world" program from my PC into the Rpi.

It is amazing how software frameworks turn simple ideas into complex code with missing documentation. Many here obviously thought using netbeans was too difficult. A simple step by step tutorial to help others get started would be really nice. It is always that first step that is the hardest.

[davidcoton]

Two thoughts, at a slight tangent.

First, writing guides and tutorials requires multiple skills. Understanding the subject, writing interesting code or procedures to illustrate techniques, thinking round it to remove pitfalls and improve the code/procedure, and presenting it all with an appropriate Geekness level (on a scale of 0-100). Many people have one or two of the skills. Few have them all, and they usually have quite enough to do (they may not even realise that us mere mortals need guides). The only chance to get good guides is for those who have tried and succeeded (and who recorded their efforts) to write it up, and publish a draft specifically for correction and improvement. Then some arm-chair critic will shoot the whole thing down. If it eventually emerges as a correct and readable guide, it will be obsolete in a week.

Second, why doesn't Google Translate work with Geek?

[stderr]

FYI...the Mining Engineer later went--successfully--into politics. You may have heard of him...Herbert Hoover. The Classical scholar was his wife, Catherine Hoover.

He and his wife were also involved with translation in Chinese, although I suspect her language skills were greater in that regard than his. Also, FDR was unfair to him in the election, much of what he was complaining about was already changed by Hoover before he left office, but then that's kind of how politics works. Before he died, it seems that he had mostly rehabilitated himself in the public's eyes, although today people mostly think of him and the Great Depression. Or that dam.

[Jednorozec]

Second, why doesn't Google Translate work with Geek?

Probably because there are too many different dialects.

[herewego]

No poetry from me, just the prosaic...

In the spirit of those forums being a place where users help other users with problems, could I encourage you to say a little about the solution you hit on? Someone else might benefit from that knowledge and be saved the frustration you experienced.

Yes, that would be very sensible:-
I started with http://www.raspberry-projects.com/pi/pr ... spberry-pi
The installation on Windows 7 was straighforward but I could not get the rpi to communicate. This was what led to the frustration described previously. I'm afraid I tried so many avenues and can't be sure of what eventually worked. Sorry.
As far as Windows communicating with rpi is concerned at all times PuTTY was working. Again another source of frustration. If that could communicate why was I having so many problems.
Sorry I can't be more helpful.