Whenever I do business with RS I use the even-more-rational "pick order up at local representative", they'll actually ship internally from wherever in the world they have your parts and the parts are delivered to you by local mail (or courier, or donkey express, or you just drive there - whatever). Since they import/export in bulk, the taxes are infinitesimally small compared to the 60% private import tax. For some reason that is not an option with the R-Pi (actually, for some reason there are no options whatsoever with the Pi, it's "standard shipping" or bust ).jamesh wrote:I can see where the miscommunication has arisen, but as I understand it, standard delivery for RS is courier, as is stated somewhere in their T&C's/delivery section of their website.
Definitely, maybe on a next edition of the MagPi? We're all curious, I guess.Phil Spiegel wrote:As a change , and based on the subject title of this thread ... since the most expensive Pi was the first Pi auctioned and which was then gifted by the anonymous purchaser to the new Computing Museum ...... how about some news on that and its exhibits????
That's the point: RS used DHL, which is not, by definition, a postal service; it is a courier. Therefore, anything, no matter how cheap or small, pays 60% tax.kromulo wrote: Exemptions:Shipments totaling up to U.S. $ 50.00 (fifty dollars) shall be exempt from taxes only if they are transported by the postal service, and that the sender and recipient are individuals;
ronanpaixao wrote: Develpers of the Raspberry Pi: if you really wanted to get a cheap computer out to the masses, you really should have dropped the massively expensive UK manufacturers and gotten in touch with the chinese manufacturers.
They did. The Raspberry Pi is made in China. Any inefficiency in shipping is down to the distributors, RS and Farnell, not the developers.That totally misses the point of getting a cheap computer to developing nations.
Develpers of the Raspberry Pi: if you really wanted to get a cheap computer out to the masses, you really should have dropped the massively expensive UK manufacturers and gotten in touch with the chinese manufacturers.
The Brazilian government is using the import tax as a punitive tax on couriers to force Brazilians to use the mail. And we do, and it is one of the best gosh-darn postal services in the world, all things considered.rurwin wrote:But if I may say so, that totally misses the point of getting a cheap computer to developing nations. If you want to avoid paying tax to the Brazilian government, maybe the Brazilian government has some responsibility here. Why should UK companies go out of their way to avoid a Brazilian tax?
And since we are on the subject of caring, and of missing the point, may I give my two cents on why this is not at all the Foundation's fault, but it does, indeed, have a lot to do with it?jamesh wrote:As to the tax situations and DHL's rather high fees, I agree, they are exorbitant, but nothing to do with the Foundation.
Even though some people made references to circunventing Brazillian tax (which is by itself quite high), what I was referring to was actual shipping charges. I don't see much problem paying import taxes on $35. But charging $40 (more than the Raspberry Pi itself), and then paying 60% over the full $75 makes over for $85 added to the value of the product, getting to the total of US$120, which is the same as saying that we are adding 242% over the value of the Pi just to get the board to our homes.rurwin wrote:But if I may say so, that totally misses the point of getting a cheap computer to developing nations. If you want to avoid paying tax to the Brazilian government, maybe the Brazilian government has some responsibility here. Why should UK companies go out of their way to avoid a Brazilian tax?
Don't be. The gadget is real, the vision is real. Capitalism sometimes sucks, but the good will prevail. Hold on tight, it will be sorted outakhilpo wrote:I was really excited about rpi and was hopping to buy one as soon as it will be available. But after reading this thread, I am kind of disillusioned.
How much did you end up paying? I've ordered from Argentina too, but after seeing all these comments I'm thinking about cancelling my order before they ship it out.sironitomas wrote:I couldn't agree more in this thread. Same thing happened to me with my Pi being delivered to Argentina. If RS used a postal service instead of a courier, it would be much, much cheaper!