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Things that could be added to future Raspberry Pi models

Sun Apr 17, 2016 10:41 am

Disclaimer: These are only suggestions, so don't get your hopes high.

Boot from USB/USB 3.0, and use the SD card slot as a reader(or for a second OS)

Gigabit Ethernet

SATA port?

Normal USB 3.0(not for booting, for storage)

Upgradeable RAM of sorts

eMMC option?

Shutdown button on the board

USB-C

(mini) PCIE slot


And stuff like faster WiFi @ 5GHz and AC WiFi, more RAM, heat-efficient processor, better heatsink/fan support, more RAM, DDR3 RAM, etc.

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Re: Things that could be added to future Raspberry Pi models

Sun Apr 17, 2016 10:46 am

PiAhoy wrote:Disclaimer: These are only suggestions, so don't get your hopes high.

Boot from USB/USB 3.0, and use the SD card slot as a reader(or for a second OS)

Gigabit Ethernet

SATA port?

Normal USB 3.0(not for booting, for storage)

Upgradeable RAM of sorts

eMMC option?

Shutdown button on the board

USB-C

(mini) PCIE slot


And stuff like faster WiFi @ 5GHz and AC WiFi, more RAM, heat-efficient processor, better heatsink/fan support, more RAM, DDR3 RAM, etc.
You forgot that the price would be $5.00 and the RPF would be defunct by XMAS 2016 :twisted:

Already asked a trillion times, see this recent post: viewtopic.php?f=62&t=144642

Plus searching the forum would find many many more :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
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Re: Things that could be added to future Raspberry Pi models

Sun Apr 17, 2016 10:47 am

Nectar points plus green shield stamps.

An Intel coprocessor so it can run Windows programs.

Free entry into every lottery.

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Re: Things that could be added to future Raspberry Pi models

Sun Apr 17, 2016 10:51 am

joan wrote:Nectar points plus green shield stamps.

An Intel coprocessor so it can run Windows programs.

Free entry into every lottery.

+ Icelandic Ponies ?

+ Free with a box of Weetabix ?

+ x86-64 comes with FRRE for Life OSX & NT10

....and still only $5.00
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Re: Things that could be added to future Raspberry Pi models

Sun Apr 17, 2016 1:14 pm

How about a Pegasus instead of an Icelandic Pony?
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Re: Things that could be added to future Raspberry Pi models

Sun Apr 17, 2016 1:18 pm

definetly needs a flux-capacitor
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Re: Things that could be added to future Raspberry Pi models

Sun Apr 17, 2016 1:20 pm

I've been having a few plumbing problems. Would be really useful if 22 mm compression fittings could be added to fit a one inch boss. A half inch drain cock would be the icing on the cake.

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Re: Things that could be added to future Raspberry Pi models

Sun Apr 17, 2016 1:23 pm

Why are you bringing cakes into this when we're talking about pies?
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Re: Things that could be added to future Raspberry Pi models

Sun Apr 17, 2016 1:38 pm

Jednorozec wrote:Why are you bringing cakes into this when we're talking about pies?
Jack Horner sat in the corner eating the Raspberry Pie :D
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Re: Things that could be added to future Raspberry Pi models

Sun Apr 17, 2016 1:41 pm

PiAhoy wrote: Boot from USB, and use the SD card slot as a reader(or for a second OS)
This is coming in a software update - at least for pi3
Gigabit Ethernet
You can use a USB gigabit adaptor right now to go faster than the built in one,
around 2-3x faster in practice (total throughput still limited by USB2)

(what's more annoying - new posters putting up feature request threads,
or established members trashing and derailing them ? :roll: )
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Sun Apr 17, 2016 3:24 pm

Unicorns and ponies. Don't forget the unicorns and ponies.

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Re: Things that could be added to future Raspberry Pi models

Sun Apr 17, 2016 3:28 pm

Am I the only person who would like an onboard a>d converter?

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Re: Things that could be added to future Raspberry Pi models

Sun Apr 17, 2016 3:32 pm

JRV wrote:Am I the only person who would like an onboard a>d converter?
Probably - because that would actually be useful.

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Re: Things that could be added to future Raspberry Pi models

Sun Apr 17, 2016 4:27 pm

Let me preface this with noting that there have been a *lot* if "feature request" threads. There are some posters who have come to really dislike them (though why such posters continue to read them is beyond me).
PiAhoy wrote:Disclaimer: These are only suggestions, so don't get your hopes high.

Boot from USB/USB 3.0, and use the SD card slot as a reader(or for a second OS)
Boot from USB (and bear in mind that on the Pi B series that includes the Ethernet adapter) is a work in progress for the Pi3B, and *only* the Pi3B.
Gigabit Ethernet

SATA port?
While Gb/s Ethernet is a distinct possibility, SATA is rather unlikely (I commend to your attention USB to SATA adapters). However, getting either of those depends on...
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Normal USB 3.0 (not for booting, for storage)
One shudders to think what an ABnormal USB 3 would be. USB 3 is very likely going to wait until Broadcom shifts from 40nm process node to 28nm. So USB 3.0 is pretty likely in a future generation of Pi. The boot from USB issue has nothing to do with what sort of USB is on the SoC. It has to do with the correct code in the boot ROM of the VC4 (which the 2837 SoC has) and a second stage bootloader that can support the process...and that is being worked on. With a bit of optimism, I would expect to see boot from USB in a general release of Raspbian within the next 1 to 3 months.
Upgradeable RAM of sorts
You mean "field upgradeable? Not going to happen. Closely examine a Pi board and think about *how* you would change out the RAM package.
eMMC option?
Already present on the Compute Module (4GB). There is a CM3 in the works. No idea how much eMMC the CM3 will have. We'll find out in a few months.
Shutdown button on the board
Google is your friend. People have implemented such things. The real issue here is that Linux is inherently a multi-user/multi-processing system. Just pushing a button to shut down a Pi is not actually a good idea. A button to power it off once the system is shutdown would be okay, though. If this (and a SATA interface) is really what you want, take a look at the Western Digital SATA adapter board. It uses a CM, has a SATA connector, and also has a power button.
USB-C
Certainly possible...but not likely in the near term. Does beg the question...where do you want to put it? As a USB port, or as the power connector? As a power connector may become necessary at the rate recommended current to fully power a Pi and peripherals continues to climb.
(mini) PCIE slot
PCIe is pretty specific to Intel x86 architecture. Sure, there could be some slick uses (e.g. M.2 connector), but space contraints, licensing costs, and shoehorning in an "alien" interface pretty much rule it out. What it really comes down to is, the Pi is *not* conventional desktop machine. It's also hard to see where a PCIe connection would fit with the educational goals for which the Pi was developed.
And stuff like faster WiFi @ 5GHz and AC WiFi, more RAM, heat-efficient processor, better heatsink/fan support, more RAM, DDR3 RAM, etc.
I will stick my neck out and hypothesize that you really don't understand the Pi very well. You are basically asking to turn it into a desktop "PC". That isn't what the Pi *is*. You can *add* 802.11ac to a Pi using an external WiFi adapter. More RAM...probably will happen--at least potentially--on a future Pi. Can't happen right now because the VC4 can't deal with more than 1GB. If you really need more RAM, there are 2GB boards out there. You just need to decide what features of the Pi you are willing to give up in the trade-off....starting with a reasonably current kernel and good software support. Later versions of DDR will also probably happen, but you're still not going to be swapping or adding RAM modules yourself.

Heatsinks...a major point of ARM designs is low power. The idea is to not need a heatsink, let alone a fan. Yes, I know that some people have thermal issues, particularly with the Pi3B. That is *probably* because, as a 40nm part, it is pushing the limits of passive, bare package cooling, especially when heavily loaded. Shifting to 28nm should make the SoC run cooler and is pretty likely to allow at least a modest clock speed increase.

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Re: Things that could be added to future Raspberry Pi models

Sun Apr 17, 2016 5:12 pm

darkbibble wrote:definetly needs a flux-capacitor
+1

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Re: Things that could be added to future Raspberry Pi models

Sun Apr 17, 2016 5:16 pm

You cannot market a "flux-capacitor". The owners of the movie will set their attack lawyers on to you. Dave Jones recently had this problem just using the phrase "flux-capacitor" on a tee shirt he was selling.
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Re: Things that could be added to future Raspberry Pi models

Sun Apr 17, 2016 5:27 pm

Heater wrote:You cannot market a "flux-capacitor". The owners of the movie will set their attack lawyers on to you. Dave Jones recently had this problem just using the phrase "flux-capacitor" on a tee shirt he was selling.
:( ho well then the name not so important as long as a biomass powerd pi in on the wish list its all good !

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Re: Things that could be added to future Raspberry Pi models

Sun Apr 17, 2016 5:32 pm

Yes second poster this weekend who will not admit the Raspberry Pi was the wrong choice..

So rather than admiting they are a silly billy, they want RPT spending money to save their blushes..

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Re: Things that could be added to future Raspberry Pi models

Sun Apr 17, 2016 5:34 pm

It might be interesting to go to court and argue the case with those attack lawyers.

My case would be that clearly the flux-capacitor is an invention that came to us from the future. Therefore the movie "owners" cannot possibly claim copyright protection on it before it is created.
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Re: Things that could be added to future Raspberry Pi models

Sun Apr 17, 2016 5:36 pm

Heater wrote:You cannot market a "flux-capacitor". The owners of the movie will set their attack lawyers on to you. Dave Jones recently had this problem just using the phrase "flux-capacitor" on a tee shirt he was selling.
Solution: a Chinese clone.
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Re: Things that could be added to future Raspberry Pi models

Sun Apr 17, 2016 5:43 pm

Yes but we would prefer our flux-capacitors to be made in Wales.
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Re: Things that could be added to future Raspberry Pi models

Sun Apr 17, 2016 5:44 pm

Heater wrote:Yes but we would prefer our flux-capacitors to be made in Wales.
Move Whales to China. :|
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Re: Things that could be added to future Raspberry Pi models

Sun Apr 17, 2016 5:46 pm

It's nice to dream up specs for new models, but I think the Raspberry Pi 3 came out too soon tbh. I haven't even checked to see who they used for their wifi and bluetooth hardware. I do recall the fun I had under Linux with firmware cutter and a certain Broadcom wifi chip on my old Powerbook. The extra USB ports are handy so you don't need to buy a hub, but other than that, I prefer they keep it simple. I'd rather they spend time getting all hardware features on the original Raspberry Pi supported and upstreamed so everything just werks. They've really done an awesome job working towards that goal.
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Re: Things that could be added to future Raspberry Pi models

Sun Apr 17, 2016 5:55 pm

It is going to be interesting to see what a Pi becomes in a few years time. It has already done quite well in kicking down 'impossible' and 'won't ever happen' barriers.

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Re: Things that could be added to future Raspberry Pi models

Sun Apr 17, 2016 6:11 pm

r3d4 wrote:
Heater wrote:You cannot market a "flux-capacitor". The owners of the movie will set their attack lawyers on to you. Dave Jones recently had this problem just using the phrase "flux-capacitor" on a tee shirt he was selling.
:( ho well then the name not so important as long as a biomass powerd pi in on the wish list its all good !
How about a "flux-condensor" then?

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