nicoaliotta
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Raspberry pi3 and Ubuntu x64

Wed Mar 16, 2016 10:14 pm

is there ubuntu or debian x64 for our new raspberry pi3?

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Re: Raspberry pi3 and Ubuntu x64

Thu Mar 17, 2016 3:43 am

No

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Re: Raspberry pi3 and Ubuntu x64

Thu Mar 17, 2016 6:23 am

You can have some of the ubuntu flavours:
https://ubuntu-pi-flavour-maker.org/

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Re: Raspberry pi3 and Ubuntu x64

Thu Mar 17, 2016 7:22 am

thanks for answers and link

but in link the is noinfo about x32 x64 releases
Are them x32?

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Re: Raspberry pi3 and Ubuntu x64

Thu Mar 17, 2016 8:31 am

In case you did not know:
Raspberry Pi uses a other type of CPU then your desktop/laptop pc.
Pi has a ARM CPU, your desktop/laptop does not. you desktop pc has a Intel or AMD cpu that use x86 Architecture.

What you are asking is a version that runs on a regular desktop pc (x86 Architectures).

x86 Architecture = not ARM
ARM = not x86 Architecture.

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Re: Raspberry pi3 and Ubuntu x64

Thu Mar 17, 2016 8:50 am

I think the question is asking if there is a 64bit arm version, and the answer is no.

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Re: Raspberry pi3 and Ubuntu x64

Thu Mar 17, 2016 11:22 am

The answer is no(t yet).

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Re: Raspberry pi3 and Ubuntu x64

Thu Mar 17, 2016 12:02 pm

So that's a nyet then :)

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Re: Raspberry pi3 and Ubuntu x64

Thu Mar 17, 2016 1:01 pm

Someone has a 64-bit kernel running, viewtopic.php?f=72&t=137963&start=25#p929996 . Hardware support is still very limited at the moment though.

Once we have a usable 64-bit kernel bringing up a Debian or Ubuntu arm64 userland on it should be pretty trivial.

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Re: Raspberry pi3 and Ubuntu x64

Thu Mar 17, 2016 2:40 pm

Nice to know that someone is working on it.

Will be great :)

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Re: Raspberry pi3 and Ubuntu x64

Thu Mar 17, 2016 3:45 pm

nicoaliotta wrote:Nice to know that someone is working on it.

Will be great :)
What are you doing that can't be done in 32-bit?

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Re: Raspberry pi3 and Ubuntu x64

Thu Mar 17, 2016 4:47 pm

i want to install it:
https://github.com/OpenTreeMap/otm-core

and they say here:
https://github.com/OpenTreeMap/otm-core ... tion-Guide

This guide assumes use of 64-bit Ubuntu 12.04. IMPORTANT: OpenTreeMap will ONLY work on 64-bit Ubuntu. Do not attempt with 32-bit.

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Re: Raspberry pi3 and Ubuntu x64

Thu Mar 17, 2016 4:52 pm

nicoaliotta wrote:i want to install it:
https://github.com/OpenTreeMap/otm-core

and they say here:
https://github.com/OpenTreeMap/otm-core ... tion-Guide

This guide assumes use of 64-bit Ubuntu 12.04. IMPORTANT: OpenTreeMap will ONLY work on 64-bit Ubuntu. Do not attempt with 32-bit.
They are assuming x86-64 CPU, the RPi has an ARM64 CPU ;)
Adieu

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Re: Raspberry pi3 and Ubuntu x64

Thu Mar 17, 2016 5:49 pm

fruitoftheloom wrote:
nicoaliotta wrote:i want to install it:
https://github.com/OpenTreeMap/otm-core

and they say here:
https://github.com/OpenTreeMap/otm-core ... tion-Guide

This guide assumes use of 64-bit Ubuntu 12.04. IMPORTANT: OpenTreeMap will ONLY work on 64-bit Ubuntu. Do not attempt with 32-bit.
They are assuming x86-64 CPU, the RPi has an ARM64 CPU ;)
They are assuming a 64bit Ubuntu not a 64 bit CPU. It's different

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Re: Raspberry pi3 and Ubuntu x64

Thu Mar 17, 2016 5:59 pm

nicoaliotta,
They are assuming a 64bit Ubuntu not a 64 bit CPU. It's different
Different but the same.

You are not going to be running a 64 bit Ubuntu on a 32 bit CPU.

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Re: Raspberry pi3 and Ubuntu x64

Thu Mar 17, 2016 6:18 pm

nicoaliotta wrote:
fruitoftheloom wrote:
nicoaliotta wrote:i want to install it:
https://github.com/OpenTreeMap/otm-core

and they say here:
https://github.com/OpenTreeMap/otm-core ... tion-Guide

This guide assumes use of 64-bit Ubuntu 12.04. IMPORTANT: OpenTreeMap will ONLY work on 64-bit Ubuntu. Do not attempt with 32-bit.
They are assuming x86-64 CPU, the RPi has an ARM64 CPU ;)
They are assuming a 64bit Ubuntu not a 64 bit CPU. It's different
Let me re-phrase what I wrote:

""It would appear that the developers compiled their software using x86-64 CPU Platform / Ubuntu 64 Operating System""
Adieu

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Re: Raspberry pi3 and Ubuntu x64

Thu Mar 17, 2016 6:19 pm

nicoaliotta wrote: They are assuming a 64bit Ubuntu not a 64 bit CPU. It's different
They are not very specific about what they *are* assuming or *why* its not running on 32bit, so anything we say is also only assumptions. Unless you can find someone that has tested this on an actuall 64bit ARM Ubuntu installation that is.

The guide starts by telling you to enable some external package sources/PPA. I dont know how to check if a PPA has ARM packages but you are kinda depending on that.

I would suggest finding a guide for Debian Jessie, much higher success potential.

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Re: Raspberry pi3 and Ubuntu x64

Wed Mar 30, 2016 6:54 pm

What are you doing that can't be done in 32-bit?
Google Chrome, for one thing.

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Re: Raspberry pi3 and Ubuntu x64

Wed Apr 20, 2016 11:11 pm

the only "real" 64-bit SBC currently available is the Odroid-C2.
The 64bit OS works quite stable, I run it in parallel to the RPI3 and its about 25% faster.

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Re: Raspberry pi3 and Ubuntu x64

Tue May 10, 2016 3:24 am

Google Chrome, for one thing.
Well, no. I'm writing this on Raspian on an RPi2 in Google Chrome.

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Re: Raspberry pi3 and Ubuntu x64

Tue May 10, 2016 6:59 am

softbear wrote:
Google Chrome, for one thing.
Well, no. I'm writing this on Raspian on an RPi2 in Google Chrome.
Surely you mean Raspbian and have installed the Chromium Browser ??????
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Re: Raspberry pi3 and Ubuntu x64

Tue May 10, 2016 4:57 pm

fruitoftheloom wrote:
softbear wrote:
Google Chrome, for one thing.
Well, no. I'm writing this on Raspian on an RPi2 in Google Chrome.
Surely you mean Raspbian and have installed the Chromium Browser ??????
Well, yeah, but it is flaky. Worked for a while. This is the version 48 to be found elsewhere in the forums here, and works for a while on this install, then a re-install is required. Possibly not worth trying to find out why the packages come up incomplete and unconfigured: it is likely some part that failed to build in the first place, or a dependency issue, or both. That it runs at all is very good to see. It is not impossibly slow, and better (while working) than the native Web browser. It is anemic, and is probably not worth chasing here. My guess is that a Linux build specific to the RPi3 will get to the point of being a useful desktop system for the average internet user.

While there are other ARM platforms that do more right now, the likelihood of long term support goes to the volume of the platform, and clearly the RaspberryPi line is winning that category. Must be time to pick up an RPi3 and check out Ubuntu/Mate on it. :-)

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Re: Raspberry pi3 and Ubuntu x64

Tue May 10, 2016 7:07 pm

softbear wrote:
fruitoftheloom wrote:
softbear wrote:
Well, no. I'm writing this on Raspian on an RPi2 in Google Chrome.
Surely you mean Raspbian and have installed the Chromium Browser ??????
Well, yeah, but it is flaky. Worked for a while. This is the version 48 to be found elsewhere in the forums here, and works for a while on this install, then a re-install is required. Possibly not worth trying to find out why the packages come up incomplete and unconfigured: it is likely some part that failed to build in the first place, or a dependency issue, or both. That it runs at all is very good to see. It is not impossibly slow, and better (while working) than the native Web browser. It is anemic, and is probably not worth chasing here. My guess is that a Linux build specific to the RPi3 will get to the point of being a useful desktop system for the average internet user.

While there are other ARM platforms that do more right now, the likelihood of long term support goes to the volume of the platform, and clearly the RaspberryPi line is winning that category. Must be time to pick up an RPi3 and check out Ubuntu/Mate on it. :-)
How is it flaky? What specifically are you describing? The special install instructions that I wrote or the browser in general? It's hard to understand what you're saying.
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Re: Raspberry pi3 and Ubuntu x64

Tue May 10, 2016 7:43 pm

Chromium on Raspbian certainly not flaky in my experience. Several Pi2Bs are deployed around the building as information screens displaying varied changing information, all using Chromium and they never need touching, just get on with the job.

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