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I do not like the Raspberry?

Wed Aug 26, 2015 9:06 pm

I recently bought a Raspberry Pi and for some reason this thing has a login why does this have a login? why can't i just press enter and boot into the OS like a PC? the password i type doesn't work i typed in Pi for the login, then i typed in raspberry for the password doesn't work does that mean this thing is bricked? is there a way to skip the login and get straight to the fun part or shall i just throw this thing away if i don't get a refund.

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Re: I do not like the Raspberry?

Wed Aug 26, 2015 9:50 pm

Other people will answer your questions - about what the right id and password to use are and so on.

But, yes, to answer your real question, yes, it is possible to make it login automatically just like a regular PC. I setup all my Pi machines that way.

Once things have calmed down in this thread, I'll tell you how to do it.
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Re: I do not like the Raspberry?

Wed Aug 26, 2015 10:03 pm

Player 1 wrote:I recently bought a Raspberry Pi and for some reason this thing has a login why does this have a login? why can't i just press enter and boot into the OS like a PC? the password i type doesn't work i typed in Pi for the login, then i typed in raspberry for the password doesn't work does that mean this thing is bricked? is there a way to skip the login and get straight to the fun part or shall i just throw this thing away if i don't get a refund.
Raspbian Operating System

raspi-config
boot to desktop

https://www.raspberrypi.org/documentati ... -config.md


fyi when a password is typed it is not shown onscreen

https://www.raspberrypi.org/help/quick-start-guide
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Re: I do not like the Raspberry?

Wed Aug 26, 2015 10:41 pm

also, the username is pi, not Pi

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Re: I do not like the Raspberry?

Wed Aug 26, 2015 11:42 pm

Player 1 wrote:I recently bought a Raspberry Pi and for some reason this thing has a login why does this have a login? why can't i just press enter and boot into the OS like a PC? the password i type doesn't work i typed in Pi for the login, then i typed in raspberry for the password doesn't work does that mean this thing is bricked? is there a way to skip the login and get straight to the fun part or shall i just throw this thing away if i don't get a refund.
Throw it away. It's no good for you.

Or give it to someone who can read.

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Re: I do not like the Raspberry?

Wed Aug 26, 2015 11:50 pm

ame wrote:
Player 1 wrote:I recently bought a Raspberry Pi and for some reason this thing has a login why does this have a login? why can't i just press enter and boot into the OS like a PC? the password i type doesn't work i typed in Pi for the login, then i typed in raspberry for the password doesn't work does that mean this thing is bricked? is there a way to skip the login and get straight to the fun part or shall i just throw this thing away if i don't get a refund.
Throw it away. It's no good for you.

Or give it to someone who can read.
"It didn't work for me the first time I used it, so I will throw it in the bin"

Thank God the first person that discovered fire didn't throw their discovery out.

OP: Your Pi is not faulty, you just don't know how to interact with it. Several posts already made in this thread describe common pitfalls that novice users fall into when presented with the first thing after writing a Raspbian image to the card.
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Re: I do not like the Raspberry?

Thu Aug 27, 2015 1:02 am

Player 1 wrote:I recently bought a Raspberry Pi and for some reason this thing has a login why does this have a login? why can't i just press enter and boot into the OS like a PC? the password i type doesn't work i typed in Pi for the login, then i typed in raspberry for the password doesn't work does that mean this thing is bricked? is there a way to skip the login and get straight to the fun part or shall i just throw this thing away if i don't get a refund.
1. Any Windows PC past WinXP takes a login after it boots, and XP can be set to require a login.
2. By the time you get to a login prompt, the Pi has booted. The OS is running.
3. *UNlike* Windows, the Linux operating system is "case sensitive". That means that upper and lower case matter and an upper case "P" is not the same as a lower case "p". Thus, user ids "fred" and "Fred" are different accounts.

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Re: I do not like the Raspberry?

Thu Aug 27, 2015 2:54 am

So selecting boot to desktop bypasses the user and password prompts and launches the gui? If so would I have to enter them in to apt-get something or am I just good? I like entering the passwords when I demo it to friends because it looks like I'm doing some mysterious Linux stuff.
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Re: I do not like the Raspberry?

Thu Aug 27, 2015 2:57 am

metalj wrote:So selecting boot to desktop bypasses the user and password prompts and launches the gui?
I don't think so.

However, you can configure things that way if it pleases you.

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Re: I do not like the Raspberry?

Thu Aug 27, 2015 3:10 am

metalj wrote:So selecting boot to desktop bypasses the user and password prompts and launches the gui? If so would I have to enter them in to apt-get something or am I just good? I like entering the passwords when I demo it to friends because it looks like I'm doing some mysterious Linux stuff.
Hmmm...perhaps you need a better grade of friends. Most of my efforts are aimed at DEmystifying Linux, not making it look strange and arcane. Granted I cut my programming teeth on card-based batch input, and when VDTs came along, signing in to TSO, so *nix OSes all look pretty straightforward from that perspective.

Still... If you boot to the GUI, you won't need to enter a password to use APT. Just open a terminal window and use the commands as if you're logged in as user "pi" (because you are). So you could do something like "sudo apt-get install <packagename>".

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Re: I do not like the Raspberry?

Thu Aug 27, 2015 4:30 am

W. H. Heydt wrote:Granted I cut my programming teeth on card-based batch input
Did you have the wonderful* experience of using ASCII for the JCL cards and EBCDIC for the program cards? There were only a couple of the ASCII key punches set on raised platforms so that you couldn't sit at them. One day I managed to knock my drawer full of cards to the floor. Those were the days!

* Full of wonder at why IBM did that.
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Re: I do not like the Raspberry?

Thu Aug 27, 2015 4:32 am

Jednorozec wrote:
W. H. Heydt wrote:Granted I cut my programming teeth on card-based batch input
Did you have the wonderful* experience of using ASCII for the JCL cards and EBCDIC for the program cards? There were only a couple of the ASCII key punches set on raised platforms so that you couldn't sit at them. One day I managed to knock my drawer full of cards to the floor. Those were the days!

* Full of wonder at why IBM did that.
I got started with an IBM 1620 Mod. I. EBCDIC didn't come in until the S/360. And besides...on cards, it was all Hollerith code on IBM 024 and 026 keypunches.

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