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Re: Problems installing Linux

Posted: Mon Oct 03, 2011 2:46 am
by obarthelemy
Oh well... I spent most of my Week End trying to get linux to run on either my nettop (AMD 3-350) or my netbook (Atom something), and I'm underwhelmed.

I wanted a light distro, lxde or even no X, installed to Flash. I tried a handful of them, and got 1 to run, at a crawl. I'll spare you the details (Knoppix doesn't like the E-350, I tired 10 video settings, no luck), I droppped the nettop, and focused on the netbook, which I'm less afraid of hosing and which is more vanilla.

In the end, I've got lubuntu running off a USB stick, with no change to the HD (I switch boot devices in the BIOS at boot time). But It's slow as molasses, and I've hosed it twice already applying the "flash" tweaks.

I tried to start over from scratch with a debian net "30-50MB install" (mini-CD ?) manual install to an SD card. Everything runs OK until the grub/lilo install. I've tried several ways to not modify my HD's MBR (no bootloader: Debian won't launch; grub on SD: fails to install...) no I'm stuck with a non-booting Debian SD *and* a modified MBR (not grub2 though, but the "install Debian" one).

Questions:

- Any clue on how I can fix Debian ? The final install screen said that if I chose the "no bootloader" option I had to launch Debian with runtime parameters... how do I enter those ?
- can I just "fixmbr" in Windows to get rid of the boot menu, or are there risks ?
- how can I do a dumb disk copy in Linux ? I've got to identical USB keys, so I'd like to clone one onto the other to avoid having to redo a full install every time I goof up. Do I need a 3rd key, so that I'm not cloning the one I'm running off ? Or is my google-fu failing ?

Re: Problems installing Linux

Posted: Mon Oct 03, 2011 5:00 am
by Soul_Est
Have you tried Arch Linux (http://www.archlinux.org/)? It might be the best to work with as you build from the CLI up.

As for partitioning the flash, you may need to tell the partitioner how big the drive or just partition it yourself to keep the speed up as the metrics aren't the same as would be for a magnetic drive.

Re: Problems installing Linux

Posted: Mon Oct 03, 2011 11:19 am
by emercer
Quote from obarthelemy on October 3, 2011, 03:46
- can I just "fixmbr" in Windows to get rid of the boot menu, or are there risks ?

You can, if all you want is your Windows boot back. You can also add Linux to your Windows bootloader menu; it involves copying the Linux initrd into a file on your Windows disk. There's a tutorial on how to do it for XP here:

How to boot Linux using Windows bootloader (XP)

Re: Problems installing Linux

Posted: Wed Oct 05, 2011 6:59 am
by bzip
Oh well... I spent most of my Week End trying to get linux to run on either my nettop (AMD 3-350) or my netbook (Atom something), and I'm underwhelmed.

hi, if you want a light fast distro try tinycore, pure magic,,

Re: Problems installing Linux

Posted: Wed Oct 05, 2011 3:25 pm
by obarthelemy
I've ordered a Nook Color (due in 2 week) and a Hercules eCafe EX HD (i.MX 515, 512MB, lots of ports, due at the end of this week)... I'm holding off on Linux hacking until then, 'coz I'm sure these two will drive me nuts ^^

Re: Problems installing Linux

Posted: Wed Oct 05, 2011 3:33 pm
by ukscone
Quote from obarthelemy on October 5, 2011, 16:25
I've ordered a Nook Color (due in 2 week) and a Hercules eCafe EX HD (i.MX 515, 512MB, lots of ports, due at the end of this week)... I'm holding off on Linux hacking until then, 'coz I'm sure these two will drive me nuts ^^

i ended up de-rooting my nookcolor as there were too many annoying phoneisms in the alternative firmwares available and for just reading and the odd game (angry birds, how i hate that game although i have played it to completion jsut because it annoyed me so much i had to finish it so i could uninstall it)

i wish there was an ssh client and an irc client app for the nook color but so far there isn't :(

rooting/dualbooting the nookcolor is pretty easy though so you should have no problems at all

not heard of the ecafe though, is it any good? (from what you've heard) and how expensive is it as i am still lookign for a decent tablet with an ssh client, irc client and a decent multiprotocol im app

Re: Problems installing Linux

Posted: Wed Oct 05, 2011 8:35 pm
by obarthelemy
The eCafé is not a tablet, it's a small ARM netbook (supposed to be called smartbook I think). 512 MB RAM, i.515@800MHz (A8); internal 8GB SSD, SDx2, USBx3, wifi N, ethernet (100 I think). And a handy little switch to make it boot either from SSD or SD1, so it's really hack-friendly. I think the CPU, RAM and IO make it well suited for a very low end NAS/Torrent/DLNA/Web/FTP server, the Pi would have struggled too much. Oh, and it does have a keyboard, trackpad, 10" screen, and 5h battery, which I won't use after setup ^^ Fully passive too. Only 150€, which is not a lot more than a server/dream plug, Efika smarttop...
The thing is delivered with a custom Ubuntu kernel, so I'll re-build up from ubuntu-core trying to add the minimum.
http://www.hercules.com/uk/eca.....tech_carac

As for the Nook, it's really more to play around. I'm not using my Touchpad much because it is too big, though it does Web and Comics and Videos, which my 4.3" HTC HD2 w/ Android really can't display (I mean, it technically can, but it's not pleasant to use). I want to see if 7" cuts it for those, while being usable single-handed.

Next and last purchase will be a Very Big Phone, probably either a Galaxy Note (5.3") or Nexus Prime (4.7" TBC).

Then I'll be set for at least ... 3 months ? ^^

Re: Problems installing Linux

Posted: Wed Oct 05, 2011 10:19 pm
by veronicathecow
Hi obarthelem-y, can I recommend Puppylinux which will run happily in 256Mb of RAM. There are numerous variations, you might as well start with the latest. http://distro.ibiblio.org/pupp.....pu-528.iso

If you have 512 or more ram then PClinuxos LXDE or KDE is a good choice.
http://www.pclinuxos.com/
Tony

Re: Problems installing Linux

Posted: Thu Oct 06, 2011 10:05 pm
by Svartalf
Quote from obarthelemy on October 5, 2011, 16:25
I've ordered a Nook Color (due in 2 week) and a Hercules eCafe EX HD (i.MX 515, 512MB, lots of ports, due at the end of this week)... I'm holding off on Linux hacking until then, 'coz I'm sure these two will drive me nuts ^^

Heh... The NC is easy to dink with. Just pull your desired image off onto a micro-SD card 4, 8, or 16 GB in size. You can boot a wide range of Android distributions onto the thing, including an ersatz Honeycomb-ish version of CM7 that someone hacked the system partition from the pre-release simulator on.