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Windows 10 Arm on Raspberry pi3

Wed Apr 11, 2018 12:34 pm

I use the RaspberryPiPkg and build a Uefi environment, But when I boot, It told me Error:0xc0000225 and I can't use mouse and keyboard. Dose Windows 10 Arm can not use on raspberrypi?
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Re: Windows 10 Arm on Raspberry pi3

Wed Apr 11, 2018 12:37 pm

GloomyGhost wrote:
Wed Apr 11, 2018 12:34 pm
I use the RaspberryPiPkg and build a Uefi environment, But when I boot, It told me Error:0xc0000225 and I can't use mouse and keyboard. Dose Windows 10 Arm can not use on raspberrypi?

Windows 10 ARM is compiled to run on a Qualcomm SoC, the Raspberry Pi uses a Broadcom SoC.
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Re: Windows 10 Arm on Raspberry pi3

Wed Apr 11, 2018 12:49 pm

The only official version is WindowsIOT based on 10's Core.

But for Windows 10 Desktop version..
You'll need to do the research with the people who have it running on the Pi3.
As far as I last read, it was up and running on the Pi3 but that was about it, enough for proof it could be done or a demonstration.
Not particularly usable.

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Re: Windows 10 Arm on Raspberry pi3

Wed Apr 11, 2018 1:00 pm

As I understand the desktop version of Windows 10 ARM on the Raspberry Pi 3B has only been taken as far as getting a working system, that does correctly run, though with only drivers for framebuffer display and keyboard (not even mouse support yet).

There is no reason someone could not get it to working, if they are willing to get all the needed drivers implemented. Though running most applications would be a bit slow, as most Windows applications are closed source compiled for the x86, so would be running under emulation, though for the applications that you can recompile to be ARM native it would be fun to play with (just do not give it an internet connection, it is Windows 10).

If you want to put that much work into it though I would recommend seeing about getting ReactOS running on the Raspberry Pi 2b/3B instead. ReactOS still gives you the full Win32 API, and is closer to being open source (it is GPL, which really is more of a shared source license). You would have to add some kind of x86 emulation core for using applications that are x86 only (like Windows 10 ARM has), and of course you would need to get it working with all of the hardware. Though it would be more rewording than just getting a closed source OS running.
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Re: Windows 10 Arm on Raspberry pi3

Wed Apr 11, 2018 1:02 pm

DavidS wrote:
Wed Apr 11, 2018 1:00 pm
As I understand the desktop version of Windows 10 ARM on the Raspberry Pi 3B has only been taken as far as getting a working system, that does correctly run, though with only drivers for framebuffer display and keyboard (not even mouse support yet).

There is no reason someone could not get it to working, if they are willing to get all the needed drivers implemented. Though running most applications would be a bit slow, as most Windows applications are closed source compiled for the x86, so would be running under emulation, though for the applications that you can recompile to be ARM native it would be fun to play with (just do not give it an internet connection, it is Windows 10).

If you want to put that much work into it though I would recommend seeing about getting ReactOS running on the Raspberry Pi 2b/3B instead. ReactOS still gives you the full Win32 API, and is closer to being open source (it is GPL, which really is more of a shared source license). You would have to add some kind of x86 emulation core for using applications that are x86 only (like Windows 10 ARM has), and of course you would need to get it working with all of the hardware. Though it would be more rewording than just getting a closed source OS running.
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Re: Windows 10 Arm on Raspberry pi3

Wed Apr 11, 2018 1:05 pm

fruitoftheloom wrote:
Wed Apr 11, 2018 12:37 pm
GloomyGhost wrote:
Wed Apr 11, 2018 12:34 pm
I use the RaspberryPiPkg and build a Uefi environment, But when I boot, It told me Error:0xc0000225 and I can't use mouse and keyboard. Dose Windows 10 Arm can not use on raspberrypi?

Windows 10 ARM is compiled to run on a Qualcomm SoC, the Raspberry Pi uses a Broadcom SoC.
but I can run it on QEMU and use it
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Re: Windows 10 Arm on Raspberry pi3

Wed Apr 11, 2018 1:12 pm

GloomyGhost wrote:
Wed Apr 11, 2018 1:05 pm
fruitoftheloom wrote:
Wed Apr 11, 2018 12:37 pm
GloomyGhost wrote:
Wed Apr 11, 2018 12:34 pm
I use the RaspberryPiPkg and build a Uefi environment, But when I boot, It told me Error:0xc0000225 and I can't use mouse and keyboard. Dose Windows 10 Arm can not use on raspberrypi?

Windows 10 ARM is compiled to run on a Qualcomm SoC, the Raspberry Pi uses a Broadcom SoC.
but I can run it on QEMU and use it

Please prove that is feasible !!
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Re: Windows 10 Arm on Raspberry pi3

Wed Apr 11, 2018 1:23 pm

fruitoftheloom wrote:
Wed Apr 11, 2018 1:12 pm
GloomyGhost wrote:
Wed Apr 11, 2018 1:05 pm
fruitoftheloom wrote:
Wed Apr 11, 2018 12:37 pm



Windows 10 ARM is compiled to run on a Qualcomm SoC, the Raspberry Pi uses a Broadcom SoC.
but I can run it on QEMU and use it

Please prove that is feasible !!
https://withinrafael.com/2018/02/11/boo ... 0-in-qemu/

This guy use QEMU Boot Windows 10 ARM and use it.
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Re: Windows 10 Arm on Raspberry pi3

Wed Apr 11, 2018 1:29 pm

GloomyGhost wrote:
Wed Apr 11, 2018 1:23 pm
fruitoftheloom wrote:
Wed Apr 11, 2018 1:12 pm
GloomyGhost wrote:
Wed Apr 11, 2018 1:05 pm


but I can run it on QEMU and use it

Please prove that is feasible !!
https://withinrafael.com/2018/02/11/boo ... 0-in-qemu/

This guy use QEMU Boot Windows 10 ARM and use it.

How is that related to a Raspberry Pi SBC ??
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Re: Windows 10 Arm on Raspberry pi3

Wed Apr 11, 2018 1:38 pm

fruitoftheloom wrote:
Wed Apr 11, 2018 1:29 pm
GloomyGhost wrote:
Wed Apr 11, 2018 1:23 pm
fruitoftheloom wrote:
Wed Apr 11, 2018 1:12 pm



Please prove that is feasible !!
https://withinrafael.com/2018/02/11/boo ... 0-in-qemu/

This guy use QEMU Boot Windows 10 ARM and use it.

How is that related to a Raspberry Pi SBC ??
Image

i boot it in Raspberry pi 3
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Re: Windows 10 Arm on Raspberry pi3

Wed Apr 11, 2018 5:31 pm

Correction, you TRY to boot it on a PI. :roll:

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Re: Windows 10 Arm on Raspberry pi3

Fri Apr 13, 2018 12:05 am

I would trying to get help from the user @NTAuthority who successfully got a boot. We know he used a patched UEFI implementation for the Pi using code from Microsoft mixed in...

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Re: Windows 10 Arm on Raspberry pi3

Tue Apr 17, 2018 11:56 pm

How did you get UEFI to work on Pi3 and to then boot into Windows 10 on ARM?

QEMU solution works but there is a problem KVM right now, so it runs extremely slow.

The ReactOS seems interesting; can it really run x86 apps?

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Re: Windows 10 Arm on Raspberry pi3

Thu Apr 19, 2018 2:38 am

gilius wrote:
Tue Apr 17, 2018 11:56 pm
How did you get UEFI to work on Pi3 and to then boot into Windows 10 on ARM?

QEMU solution works but there is a problem KVM right now, so it runs extremely slow.

The ReactOS seems interesting; can it really run x86 apps?
Not yet, at least not on ARM yet. The ARM port still needs more work, the x86 version is very usable, despite still being Alpha.
Though if no one works on the ARM Port it will never get there. So if you want to get a win32 API os going on the RPi working on the ARM Port of ReactOS is the logical place to put your effort.

Just like if no one works on an ARM based OS that is API compatible with GS/OS and includes a 65816 emulation layer with enough HW emulation to run most Desktop GS/OS 65816 native binaries, then we will never have such a great OS on the Raspberry Pi :) . Though I am not sure how many are working on that either :) .
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Re: Windows 10 Arm on Raspberry pi3

Wed Apr 25, 2018 2:38 pm

A user on GitHub has just posted critical code and instructions on how to boot Windows 10 ARM for Pi. https://github.com/andreiw/RaspberryPiP ... 80315-1454

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