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RPi4

Mon Feb 19, 2018 7:48 pm

Hey Pi developers,

You guys are making a Pi4 right? If so (I hope so), when is it coming out?
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Re: RPi4

Mon Feb 19, 2018 8:09 pm

Not a Pi Dev here but don't hold your breath...you will turn blue waiting.

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Re: RPi4

Mon Feb 19, 2018 8:20 pm

We've already been given a release date: "When its ready"
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Re: RPi4

Mon Feb 19, 2018 8:32 pm

No hurry. Pi 3 works fine around here.

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Re: RPi4

Mon Feb 19, 2018 9:30 pm

Taken from an interview with Eben Upton on wired.
"Raspberry Pi One lasted for three years," Upton says. "Then we had Raspberry Pi Two that lasted for a year, I think Raspberry Pi Three is more like a three-year product. We may tweak some peripheral bits of it at some point but probably not even that."
So not going to see a new pi before feb 2019 at the earliest......

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Re: RPi4

Mon Feb 19, 2018 9:45 pm

You do realise that anyone who knows about any future product would be gagged with a non-disclosure agreement. Therefore, as always, these "wish list" pink ponies and unicorn threads are entirely pointless and will never get details about "RPi Next", RPi4, RPi5, RPi73 or RPi99999999.
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Re: RPi4

Mon Feb 19, 2018 9:55 pm

People have been known to violate NDAs - and usually in a way so as not to be traceable.

Things leak all the time.

Not at all unreasonable for someone to hope for something to come out of one of these threads.

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Re: RPi4

Mon Feb 19, 2018 9:59 pm

The latest Raspberry Pi 3 b is version 1.2 right?
It'd be a shame to skip the Pi 3.14 model
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Re: RPi4

Mon Feb 19, 2018 10:15 pm

n67,

What are you suggesting?

That somebody inside the Foundation should betray their trust and break their word?

In a "Friend of a friend. Know a guy who knows a guy..." kind of way, if you want to know it's better to start frequenting bars in Cambridge.

Not ask on this forum.

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Re: RPi4

Tue Feb 20, 2018 1:27 am

wh7qq wrote:
Mon Feb 19, 2018 8:09 pm
Not a Pi Dev here but don't hold your breath...you will turn blue waiting.
i hope it’s sometime soon
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Re: RPi4

Tue Feb 20, 2018 1:27 am

Imperf3kt wrote:
Mon Feb 19, 2018 8:20 pm
We've already been given a release date: "When its ready"
ah
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Re: RPi4

Tue Feb 20, 2018 1:29 am

DougieLawson wrote:
Mon Feb 19, 2018 9:45 pm
You do realise that anyone who knows about any future product would be gagged with a non-disclosure agreement. Therefore, as always, these "wish list" pink ponies and unicorn threads are entirely pointless and will never get details about "RPi Next", RPi4, RPi5, RPi73 or RPi99999999.
yeah just postin anyways :D
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Re: RPi4

Tue Feb 20, 2018 1:29 am

Imperf3kt wrote:
Mon Feb 19, 2018 9:59 pm
The latest Raspberry Pi 3 b is version 1.2 right?
It'd be a shame to skip the Pi 3.14 model
a shame
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Re: RPi4

Tue Feb 20, 2018 1:30 am

n67 wrote:
Mon Feb 19, 2018 9:55 pm
People have been known to violate NDAs - and usually in a way so as not to be traceable.

Things leak all the time.

Not at all unreasonable for someone to hope for something to come out of one of these threads.

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well it is fine if we don’t know
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Re: RPi4

Tue Feb 20, 2018 4:08 am

foxxyman wrote:
Tue Feb 20, 2018 1:30 am
n67 wrote:
Mon Feb 19, 2018 9:55 pm
People have been known to violate NDAs - and usually in a way so as not to be traceable.

Things leak all the time.

Not at all unreasonable for someone to hope for something to come out of one of these threads.

Friend of a friend. Know a guy who knows a guy...
well it is fine if we don’t know

Just another waste of space post, been discussed already and the answer is still the same !!!!
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Re: RPi4

Tue Feb 20, 2018 10:05 am

n67 wrote:
Mon Feb 19, 2018 9:55 pm
People have been known to violate NDAs - and usually in a way so as not to be traceable.

Things leak all the time.

Not at all unreasonable for someone to hope for something to come out of one of these threads.

Friend of a friend. Know a guy who knows a guy...
The only leaks on Pi products have bee by third parties, never any one at the the Foundation/trading.

We know how to keep a secret; other people, well, it's usually incompetence behind the leaks, only been one malicious leak that I recall. Penalties have followed even inadvertent leaks, so there is always incentive not to leak!

As for the Pi 4, well, we have a development team here, and we are full time and busy. So clearly there will be a Pi4 at some point but it's some way away, and we have plenty of other stuff to do. I think our roadmap is pretty exciting, but you'll have to wait and experience it for yourselves in real time!
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Re: RPi4

Tue Feb 20, 2018 1:46 pm

Hah! It seems if you need something more powerful than a RPi3B, you will have to look elsewhere for a suitable product, you can't stay loyal to this producer(?). :lol:

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Tue Feb 20, 2018 2:19 pm

k-pi wrote:
Tue Feb 20, 2018 1:46 pm
Hah! It seems if you need something more powerful than a RPi3B, you will have to look elsewhere for a suitable product, you can't stay loyal to this producer(?). :lol:
I did, I bought a few years old laptop for £30, nice i3 something or other.
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Re: RPi4

Tue Feb 20, 2018 5:45 pm

foxxyman wrote:
Tue Feb 20, 2018 1:27 am
wh7qq wrote:
Mon Feb 19, 2018 8:09 pm
Not a Pi Dev here but don't hold your breath...you will turn blue waiting.
i hope it’s sometime soon
As do we all, but sensible people know that "soon" is a relative term. For the Pi4B (as good a name as any), you have the statement from Eben Upton already quoted. The other thing he said on the subject is 'don't expect the next Pi for two to three years.' That was said around the time of the Pi3B launch in 2016.

The two things that are *reasonably* certain--given recent releases from Broadcom--is that the next Pi SoC will be a 28nm part instead of a 40nm part and the the suggested retail price will be $35. Anything beyond that is speculation. It is also extremely likely that the feature set for the Pi4B is already set, and likely in at least early silicon, even if the release is a year or more away. Therefore any "wish list" items are more properly for the "Pi5B" than the "Pi4B".

As for me, the *only* thing I'm hoping for in a Pi4B is faster I/O. So far as I am concerned, CPU clock, GPU, and physical memory size can remain the same.

In the more general case....it is nearly the end of February, with the annual "birthday" event to follow soon after. It would be consistent for the RPF to announce....something. What such a "something" might be, I don't know, though I do know what I'd kind of like it to be. As already noted, those that know aren't talking, and those that talk, don't know. I fall in the later category....and if I fell in the former category, I wouldn't tell, anyway.

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Re: RPi4

Tue Feb 20, 2018 5:53 pm

After the Pi 4; what's the Pi 5 going to have ?

:mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen:

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Re: RPi4

Tue Feb 20, 2018 6:13 pm

As for not holding breath, don't do it. You will definitely suffocate.

And I think that enough speculation for now.
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