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The Broadcom + Qualcomm Rumor

Sat Nov 04, 2017 6:11 pm

Rumor has it that Broadcom is considering a $100 BILLION buyout of Qualcomm.

https://www.thestreet.com/story/1437567 ... tions.html
http://nypost.com/2017/11/03/broadcom-w ... -qualcomm/

Not only this, but they are considering moving Broadcom HQ to USA instead of Singapore, the only reason why is to help the Qualcomm+Broadcom deal pass regulatory oversight. Like, they are willing to move their headquarters for this.

What would this mean for Raspberry Pi if a Qualcomm/Broadcom deal did happen?

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Re: The Broadcom + Qualcomm Rumor

Sat Nov 04, 2017 6:34 pm

gtechn wrote:
Sat Nov 04, 2017 6:11 pm
Rumor has it that Broadcom is considering a $100 BILLION buyout of Qualcomm.

https://www.thestreet.com/story/1437567 ... tions.html
http://nypost.com/2017/11/03/broadcom-w ... -qualcomm/

Not only this, but they are considering moving Broadcom HQ to USA instead of Singapore, the only reason why is to help the Qualcomm+Broadcom deal pass regulatory oversight. Like, they are willing to move their headquarters for this.

What would this mean for Raspberry Pi if a Qualcomm/Broadcom deal did happen?

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Like Broadcom old being bought by Avago and renaming to Broadcom new, and Cypress buying Broadcom Wireless, no difference to the end user in the foreseeable future...
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Re: The Broadcom + Qualcomm Rumor

Sat Nov 04, 2017 7:04 pm

Even more patent fun.

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Re: The Broadcom + Qualcomm Rumor

Mon Nov 06, 2017 11:09 am

Don't really think it would have any impact on end-user or raspberry
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Re: The Broadcom + Qualcomm Rumor

Mon Nov 06, 2017 5:11 pm

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Re: The Broadcom + Qualcomm Rumor

Tue Nov 07, 2017 2:39 am

Qualcomm is doing fine, as far as I know, maybe a partnership is better.

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Re: The Broadcom + Qualcomm Rumor

Tue Nov 07, 2017 3:12 pm

Actually, Qualcomm is in a moment of weakness. Namely, a massive lawsuit with Apple. Not to mention that their stock has been considered as "mostly flat" (I have heard) over the last... five years.

The unpredictability of the Apple lawsuit is keeping Qualcomm investors a little scared. Qualcomm wants to believe that they will win the lawsuit, and that this will send their stock up and make a Broadcom acquisition a bad deal. HOWEVER, should Qualcomm lose the Apple lawsuit, their stock would plunge and I wouldn't be surprised if Broadcom bid on them again (with Qualcomm accepting that round).

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Re: The Broadcom + Qualcomm Rumor

Tue Nov 07, 2017 3:46 pm

On the other hand, that Qualcomm/Apple suit is going to last for YEARS before anything is decided.
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Re: The Broadcom + Qualcomm Rumor

Tue Nov 07, 2017 3:50 pm

gtechn wrote:
Tue Nov 07, 2017 3:12 pm
Actually, Qualcomm is in a moment of weakness. Namely, a massive lawsuit with Apple. Not to mention that their stock has been considered as "mostly flat" (I have heard) over the last... five years.

The unpredictability of the Apple lawsuit is keeping Qualcomm investors a little scared. Qualcomm wants to believe that they will win the lawsuit, and that this will send their stock up and make a Broadcom acquisition a bad deal. HOWEVER, should Qualcomm lose the Apple lawsuit, their stock would plunge and I wouldn't be surprised if Broadcom bid on them again (with Qualcomm accepting that round).

You need to take into account that Microsoft very much rely on Qualcomm for the SoC for not only W10 IoT but also W10 Phone and the forthcoming W10 ARM, therefore there is more to Qualcomm than a spat with Apple.....
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Re: The Broadcom + Qualcomm Rumor

Tue Nov 07, 2017 11:54 pm

so, we will have SoC-625 on Pi-X in the future?
after China SoC grown everyone out, good move Qualcomm.

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Re: The Broadcom + Qualcomm Rumor

Wed Nov 08, 2017 9:01 am

hm... i always was under the impression that qualcomm is much much bigger than broadcom. how could broadcom have bought them?

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Re: The Broadcom + Qualcomm Rumor

Wed Nov 08, 2017 10:24 am

So does the combined company become "Broadqual" or "Qualbroad" of "Comcomm"?

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Re: The Broadcom + Qualcomm Rumor

Wed Nov 08, 2017 10:32 am

spock wrote:
Wed Nov 08, 2017 9:01 am
hm... i always was under the impression that qualcomm is much much bigger than broadcom. how could broadcom have bought them?

It is not a question of size, it is more a question of who has the ready cash in the bank, which Broadcom (NEW) does after selling part of Broadcom (OLD) Wireless Technology to Cypress..
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Re: The Broadcom + Qualcomm Rumor

Wed Nov 08, 2017 11:20 am

Pi with mobilephone built in?
IoT Pi's with 5G comms.
Adafruit selling Pi DIY phones via Radioshack?

Broadcom get out of phone/tablet market then jump back in again by acquiring Qualcomm.
Broadamm sell off WiFi/BT and then jump back in with Qualcomm WiFi/BT parts.
Broadcom picks up NXP with those i.Mx8 chips :D

AMD making graphics chips? for Intel
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Re: The Broadcom + Qualcomm Rumor

Wed Nov 08, 2017 11:39 am

Gavinmc42 wrote:
Wed Nov 08, 2017 11:20 am

Broadcom get out of phone/tablet market then jump back in again by acquiring Qualcomm.
That was OLD Broadcom who shut down that division prior to Avago Technologies buying OLD Broadcom
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Re: The Broadcom + Qualcomm Rumor

Wed Nov 08, 2017 3:22 pm

Gavinmc42,
AMD making graphics chips? for Intel,
AMD does not make any chips. Only designs them.

Intel on the other hand has state of that art FABs. We could say Intel would be making chips for AMD.

Good job Intel has AMD around. Intel messed up going to 64 bit with the Itanium and saved itself by adopting the AMD 64 bit architecture. Now they need AMD to get the graphics stuff working for them.

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Wed Nov 08, 2017 4:25 pm

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Re: The Broadcom + Qualcomm Rumor

Wed Nov 08, 2017 7:25 pm

Heater wrote:
Wed Nov 08, 2017 3:22 pm
Gavinmc42,
AMD making graphics chips? for Intel,
AMD does not make any chips. Only designs them.

Intel on the other hand has state of that art FABs. We could say Intel would be making chips for AMD.

Good job Intel has AMD around. Intel messed up going to 64 bit with the Itanium and saved itself by adopting the AMD 64 bit architecture. Now they need AMD to get the graphics stuff working for them.
Probably less about graphics and more about number crunchers.

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Re: The Broadcom + Qualcomm Rumor

Mon Nov 13, 2017 10:40 pm

It is official - Qualcomm turned it down.

However, they had the word "value" in all three versions of their denial. In other words, it is implied that if the bid was higher, they would consider it more deeply... and Broadcom might just do that...

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Re: The Broadcom + Qualcomm Rumor

Tue Nov 14, 2017 2:13 am

spock wrote:
Wed Nov 08, 2017 9:01 am
hm... i always was under the impression that qualcomm is much much bigger than broadcom. how could broadcom have bought them?
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Re: The Broadcom + Qualcomm Rumor

Tue Nov 14, 2017 4:09 am

That was just an opening salvo. Broadcom knew it would be rejected. But now, having first gone to the board, they can in good faith appeal directly to the shareholders. Don't know what the politically correct term is for hostile takeover, but that's what it becomes.

The whole headquarter thing is mostly PR. Hock Tan, CEO, already has his offices in California. It doesn't matter where a company has its headquarters, what matters is where it banks its profits and pays its taxes.
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Re: The Broadcom + Qualcomm Rumor

Tue Nov 14, 2017 11:26 am

jcyr wrote:
Tue Nov 14, 2017 4:09 am
It doesn't matter where a company has its headquarters, what matters is where it banks its profits and pays its taxes.
It matters politically and perceptionally. It would, for example, be a stretch to call a company "An American Company" if it were headquartered outside America, and being labelled as such can have it's advantages, with it being otherwise having disadvantages.

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