tater1337 wrote:a few months ago a friend of mine sent me the release about the Pine64, I just came across it while cleaning up my email inbox.
overall I tend not to hop on the latest bandwagon like a neophyte. I tend to let announcements like that sit and then see how they stand up after a few months.
but it got me to thinking, with most of the production effort going into pi3 and pi zeros, that if I wanted a less capable board that maybe i should look into other boards.
the orange pi plus 2 looks overfeatured, but maybe the earlier orange pis might be doable....same with pine64 maybe.
does anyone wish to comment on this? maybe give me a bit of advice?
You a are confusing Software & Hardware Licensing.liudr wrote: Separately, I read about how broadcom is not selling the SOC to anyone else except to rpf. Does that rhyme with open source or else?
Armbian is now very much the defacto ARMHF OS: http://www.armbian.comliudr wrote:I've read about orange pi and how they support raspbian. Sounds good, price and hardware, right? After some more reading on their forum, I found out that GPIO with python is not well supported at all. I wish they were because that's like one of the places where you start playing around a bit once you're comfortable with your new little computer. On the other hand, this is a good candidate for rpi alternatives if they do provide more support.
Well.... One of the virtues of Linux is that, for the vast majority of use cases, so long as the hardware has the required features, it really doesn't matter what hardware you're using. As a result, software support is actually a bigger deal than it otherwise would be because you're really *not* locked in at the hardware level.liudr wrote:So it boils down to two things
Good software support to get you in.
Having a proprietary hardware to lock you in.
Took me several days of research to come right back to rpi. Not that I am complaining much, just not much easy alternative.
I'd say it matters a lot....because of software. If I have hardware with little or no support in linux, the hardware is useless to me. If you have an odroid that only has a 3.10 kernel, but need the features of a 4.2 or 4.4 kernel, then sure your hardware may beat out the pi in benchmarks, but it's worthless to you.W. H. Heydt wrote: Well.... One of the virtues of Linux is that, for the vast majority of use cases, so long as the hardware has the required features, it really doesn't matter what hardware you're using. As a result, software support is actually a bigger deal than it otherwise would be because you're really *not* locked in at the hardware level.
I have equal numbers of Pis and Odroids, but have a slightly different use-case for each type of board.rpiowner wrote: I have three "cheap boards" as you writing, compare Raspberry Pi Zero, Orange Pi One, and "CHIP" -
This very important for all developer. So I am recommend Raspberry Pi!
I want that.The newer kernel for the Raspberry Pi includes btrfs which is a modern copy-on-write filesystem with snapshots, block-level deduplication, built in data integrity checking and RAID. Once you start using btrfs, it is very difficult to go back to ext4.
Ask yourself what happens when the SoC is obsolete, will Armbian Community Developers still keep updating.cabbers wrote:On the subject of Pi alternatives, I needed a board with Gig Ethernet-I have my Pi's with an Anker 3.0 Gig USB adaptor but it tops out at 350Mb/sec or so (due to the USB 2.0 bus I suppose). So I bought a A20-OLinuXIno-LIME2 https://www.olimex.com/Products/OLinuXi ... e-hardware
I'm not an expert on Linux, and Linux kernels, and thanks for the illumination around how all these new boards promise the earth in terms of hardware and price (plus size) but what I never knew is that kernel support is pretty old-whereas Raspian is bang up to date-and has this fantastic forum. But this LIME2 now has 4.6 kernel support (in Armbian)-in the opinion of the community, does this change anything (it is still more expensive than a Pi2/Pi3-granted)? Or are there other features and packages and community support that the Pi just has, that means all these all new kids on the block just cant compete?
If and when Mr Upton decides on GigE for a Pi, I'm back in there but for the stuff I test on, I need a native GigE solution.
Yes, the Odroid-C2 has GigE directly connected to the soc. It is a clone of the Pi having the similar board layout, dimensions, and mounting holes which can be useful. Its lithography is 28nm so it runs faster (2GHz) and cooler. It also has a built in heatsink. I have never got it to throttle back even with deliberate stress testing (including cpuburn-53 which throttles back or crashes my Pi3 in seconds). There is no built-in Wifi. But it does have 100Mhz DDR eMMC 5.0 as well as micro SD card for storage, you can boot off either.cabbers wrote:I'll have a look at the ODroid stuff-like a I say, GigE is the big miss for me for the Pi-I do understand this involves a lot of work if it was to happen, but for me, it stands out like a sore thumb amongst all these Linux boards