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SBC wars

Mon Dec 07, 2015 5:47 pm

Seems like the SBC wars are producing some remarkable equipment
at affordable prices. The RPI 2 B is still my favorite.

https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/13 ... everything
So what's all this RPi stuff anyhow? Well folks, it's a feat of engineering from
the UK almost as remarkable as the De Havilland Mosquito and the Colossus.

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Re: SBC wars

Tue Dec 08, 2015 4:19 pm

pxgator wrote:Seems like the SBC wars are producing some remarkable equipment
at affordable prices. The RPI 2 B is still my favorite.

https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/13 ... everything
£45 was for early birds, only the £53+ rewards are still available.

£53: 2GB Ram; 32GB eMMC
£86: 4GB Ram; 64GB eMMC

IMO this is classic VapourWare, I'll be surprised if this ever solidifies.
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Re: SBC wars

Tue Dec 08, 2015 4:56 pm

What I find curious is that the KS page doesn't mention what processor or clock speed it has, though it would have to be an x86 chip at a pretty decent clock, say, at least approaching 1.5GHz, to run Win10.

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Re: SBC wars

Tue Dec 08, 2015 5:02 pm

W. H. Heydt wrote:What I find curious is that the KS page doesn't mention what processor or clock speed it has, though it would have to be an x86 chip at a pretty decent clock, say, at least approaching 1.5GHz, to run Win10.
LattePanda is featured with quad-core 1.8Ghz, 2/4G RAM, 32/64 GB eMMC, WIFI, Bluetooth 4.0 and USB 3.0, plus onboard Arduino processor!
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Re: SBC wars

Tue Dec 08, 2015 5:38 pm

fruitoftheloom wrote:
W. H. Heydt wrote:What I find curious is that the KS page doesn't mention what processor or clock speed it has, though it would have to be an x86 chip at a pretty decent clock, say, at least approaching 1.5GHz, to run Win10.
LattePanda is featured with quad-core 1.8Ghz, 2/4G RAM, 32/64 GB eMMC, WIFI, Bluetooth 4.0 and USB 3.0, plus onboard Arduino processor!
Though the feature is quite cost affordable. But it seems that the official team didn't support Linux yet. Their product is just pre-installed the Windows 10.

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Re: SBC wars

Tue Dec 08, 2015 5:56 pm

fruitoftheloom wrote:
W. H. Heydt wrote:What I find curious is that the KS page doesn't mention what processor or clock speed it has, though it would have to be an x86 chip at a pretty decent clock, say, at least approaching 1.5GHz, to run Win10.
LattePanda is featured with quad-core 1.8Ghz, 2/4G RAM, 32/64 GB eMMC, WIFI, Bluetooth 4.0 and USB 3.0, plus onboard Arduino processor!
Okay...so there is the speed part. While that doesn't say...it pretty much has to be x86.

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Re: SBC wars

Tue Dec 08, 2015 6:04 pm

W. H. Heydt wrote:
fruitoftheloom wrote:
W. H. Heydt wrote:What I find curious is that the KS page doesn't mention what processor or clock speed it has, though it would have to be an x86 chip at a pretty decent clock, say, at least approaching 1.5GHz, to run Win10.
LattePanda is featured with quad-core 1.8Ghz, 2/4G RAM, 32/64 GB eMMC, WIFI, Bluetooth 4.0 and USB 3.0, plus onboard Arduino processor!
Okay...so there is the speed part. While that doesn't say...it pretty much has to be x86.
Read down a bit and see
"Atom processor Quad Core 1.8GHz CPU"
on one of the diagrams.
and
"Intel Cherry Trail Quad Core 1.8GHz".

I note that they claim they have HDMI and "Display Connector" video out, but say the Pi only has HDMI.

Oh, also that they run "Full Edition of Windows 10" while Pi runs "Linux/Android"???
[edit]
Also, the Pi2 only has 17 GPIOs (compared to the LP's 22) and both devices support Wake on LAN. Hmm...

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Re: SBC wars

Tue Dec 08, 2015 6:11 pm

I suspect most of the I/O is from the "arduino" part, and very slow...
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Re: SBC wars

Tue Dec 08, 2015 6:16 pm

rpdom wrote: Read down a bit and see
"Atom processor Quad Core 1.8GHz CPU"
on one of the diagrams.
and
"Intel Cherry Trail Quad Core 1.8GHz".

I note that they claim they have HDMI and "Display Connector" video out, but say the Pi only has HDMI.

Oh, also that they run "Full Edition of Windows 10" while Pi runs "Linux/Android"???
[edit]
Also, the Pi2 only has 17 GPIOs (compared to the LP's 22) and both devices support Wake on LAN. Hmm...
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_I ... 2814_nm.29

http://ark.intel.com/products/85475
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Re: SBC wars

Tue Dec 08, 2015 6:59 pm

fruitoftheloom wrote:
rpdom wrote: "Intel Cherry Trail Quad Core 1.8GHz".
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_I ... 2814_nm.29
Interesting... so it's a 64 bit device and the 1.8GHz is a "burst mode", not a default speed. Still, the same applies to the Pi's 900MHz.

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Re: SBC wars

Tue Dec 08, 2015 7:08 pm

Looks like it's worth the money! I think they will be taking my money :o
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Re: SBC wars

Tue Dec 08, 2015 7:17 pm

If it is coming with a legal version of "full Win10", MS must be letting them have it for nothing or next to nothing.

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Re: SBC wars

Tue Dec 08, 2015 7:34 pm

drgeoff wrote:If it is coming with a legal version of "full Win10", MS must be letting them have it for nothing or next to nothing.
AFAIAA only Intel Tablets are eligible for ZERO Cost OEM Pricing

This is for W8.1 but believe W10 is the same, but the Latte may be using a Tablet SoC to get around Licensing

http://www.pcworld.com/article/2872324/ ... -cost.html


Strange the other KickStarter Intel x86 SBC did not mention W10

https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/80 ... i2-form-fa
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Re: SBC wars

Tue Dec 08, 2015 10:19 pm

fruitoftheloom wrote: Strange the other KickStarter Intel x86 SBC did not mention W10

https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/80 ... i2-form-fa
Ummm...from the linked page (my bold):
UP, the credit card computer board for makers powered by Intel Quad Core Atom X5-8300 1.84GHz, running Linux, Windows 10, and Android

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Re: SBC wars

Tue Dec 08, 2015 10:46 pm

W. H. Heydt wrote:
fruitoftheloom wrote: Strange the other KickStarter Intel x86 SBC did not mention W10

https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/80 ... i2-form-fa
Ummm...from the linked page (my bold):
UP, the credit card computer board for makers powered by Intel Quad Core Atom X5-8300 1.84GHz, running Linux, Windows 10, and Android
It does not state Windows 10 Licensed is included in price :?
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Re: SBC wars

Fri Dec 11, 2015 6:46 am

mikronauts wrote:I suspect most of the I/O is from the "arduino" part, and very slow...
And there're 1 serial port and 2 GPIOs from Atom processor only...

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Re: SBC wars

Fri Dec 11, 2015 6:47 am

fruitoftheloom wrote:
W. H. Heydt wrote:
fruitoftheloom wrote: Strange the other KickStarter Intel x86 SBC did not mention W10

https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/80 ... i2-form-fa
Ummm...from the linked page (my bold):
UP, the credit card computer board for makers powered by Intel Quad Core Atom X5-8300 1.84GHz, running Linux, Windows 10, and Android
It does not state Windows 10 Licensed is included in price :?
Oh...In the latest FAQs, the official guy mentioned that it's completely pre activated... How it could be with this price..

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Re: SBC wars

Fri Dec 11, 2015 4:54 pm

IMO this is classic VapourWare, I'll be surprised if this ever solidifies.
I agree, this seems a bit risky to me.......caveat emptor!!
I'll just stick with my trusty RPI 2.
So what's all this RPi stuff anyhow? Well folks, it's a feat of engineering from
the UK almost as remarkable as the De Havilland Mosquito and the Colossus.

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