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Nomenclature of the Future

Thu Aug 16, 2018 3:35 am

(If anyone is looking to speculate on features in future Pis...this is NOT the thread you're looking for.)

I've been mulling over putting up a thread to make the case for a Pi2B+/Pi2Bv1.3. Part of the problem is that the Pi2Bv1.2 is really a slowed down wireless Pi3B and a Pi2B+/Pi2Bv1.3 would be a slowed down wireless Pi3B+. The two versions of the Pi2B already create some confusion. Adding a third variant won't help. So I would like to suggest the following...

Assuming that the Pi4B will be launched with the same basic features of the Pi3B/Pi3B+, primarily that it will include on-board WiFi, I suggest that it be designated as the "Pi4BW" as an analogy to the Pi0W. And then if a board is launched without WiFI, rather than making a Pi2Bv1.4, the wireless (and probably lower clocked) board be designated "Pi4B".

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Re: Nomenclature of the Future

Thu Aug 16, 2018 3:47 am

What, you want to speculate on the naming of a device which itself is pretty much all speculation at this time?

Pointless.

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Re: Nomenclature of the Future

Thu Aug 16, 2018 4:53 am

I surmise that I was unclear...

It is not speculation on what the naming convention might be. It is a suggestion for what the naming convention should be.

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Re: Nomenclature of the Future

Thu Aug 16, 2018 5:23 am

In that case, I suggest the Pi4 be given the nickname 'Googlee'
The addition of a single E should avoid legal issues, and it will be easy to identify which model Pi people have when they say they have the Googlee Pi.
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Re: Nomenclature of the Future

Thu Aug 16, 2018 8:10 am

Alright. Then it is perhaps premature and presumptuous. It's the Raspberry Pi Foundations baby, they get to name it.

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Re: Nomenclature of the Future

Thu Aug 16, 2018 9:32 am

Heater wrote:
Thu Aug 16, 2018 8:10 am
...It's the Raspberry Pi Foundations baby, they get to name it.
Hmmm, WHHeydt just made a suggestion on how to take care for clarification by name in an ever growing Pi family. So what's the problem with that suggestion? I see no contradiction in supposing nomenclature by users an naming things by technology owners listening to users.

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Re: Nomenclature of the Future

Thu Aug 16, 2018 9:55 am

W. H. Heydt wrote:
Thu Aug 16, 2018 4:53 am
It is not speculation on what the naming convention might be. It is a suggestion for what the naming convention should be.
It was clear to me and I agree, and I recall I might also have suggested it myself along the way. Pi4BW for the 'with wireless' version, Pi4B if there is ever one which doesn't have wireless, makes a lot of sense.

Keeping to the existing A/B convention as "B" with multiple USB host connectors, "A" when a single USB host/OTG connector gives a potential range of 4A, 4AW, 4B and 4BW with rational naming. The "+" can be used if there is ever an improved SoC version before a Pi 5 arrives.

One could also argue for a H suffix as well to indicate the board has GPIO headers fitted; Pi4BWH as a parallel to Pi0WH.

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Re: Nomenclature of the Future

Thu Aug 16, 2018 11:09 am

To be honest it seems unlikely that there will be a Pi4 without wireless.
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Re: Nomenclature of the Future

Thu Aug 16, 2018 11:23 am

jamesh wrote:
Thu Aug 16, 2018 11:09 am
To be honest it seems unlikely that there will be a Pi4 without wireless.
Very possibly, except perhaps for the CM4.

But it's more about people being able to easily identify what a board does have from its name, adopting a consistent naming convention going forward which allows that.

I still have to check at times whether my Pi B+ has wireless or not. I can never remember if wireless arrived with that, the 2B or the 3B.

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Re: Nomenclature of the Future

Thu Aug 16, 2018 5:28 pm

jamesh wrote:
Thu Aug 16, 2018 11:09 am
To be honest it seems unlikely that there will be a Pi4 without wireless.
Not even as an "upgraded" "Pi2B to reduce the number of different SoCs that need to be made (the very reason that a Pi2Bv1.2 is really a Pi3B variant)?

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