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Windows Embedded Compact 2013

Sat Jun 15, 2013 3:33 pm

do you think, it will run on a raspberry pi?

http://www.microsoft.com/en-us/news/Fea ... actGA.aspx

does somebody has access to that test version, to try to run it on a raspberry pi?
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsembedde ... loads.aspx
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsembedde ... -2013.aspx
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Re: Windows Embedded Compact 2013

Sat Jun 15, 2013 4:30 pm

No one has trid it as far as I know, and I'm not sure how much effort it would be to port it to the Raspi. Quite a bit I should think, and I am not sure it would be worth the time spent.
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Re: Windows Embedded Compact 2013

Sat Jun 15, 2013 6:38 pm

If we ever do get "Windows on a Pi" - via this or any other similar route - just always remember and don't ever forget, it won't run your standard, normal, Windows (x86) software. This makes the effort a low-gainer at best.

Note that in the above, when I say "Windows on a Pi", I mean Windows actually running natively on the Pi, *NOT* regular x86 Windows running on some emulator platform.
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Re: Windows Embedded Compact 2013

Sat Jun 15, 2013 8:02 pm

i know, that windows embedded is not an environment to run "normal" native windows applications...
and that wasn't my question. (as i know even "full featured" Windows 8 RT on an "higher performance" ARM hardware is not able to run x86 native code - so that is not the point)
i only wanted to know, if it is possible to run Windows Embedded Compact 2013 on a raspberry pi, because i did not found the minimum hardware requirements for that OS, i only saw, that it is possible to run on an ARM. and maybe there is somebody out there, who has the knowledge, possibility and time to try it out.
and maybe it is for somebody useful to know and a possible solution to realize a project or in other aspects helpful.
... even it is not a free and open source solution.

i am always interested to know, what is possible... not only, what is rational and useful :P
(there are so many different OS tested out there on a RPi, why not Win Embedded)
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Re: Windows Embedded Compact 2013

Sun Jun 16, 2013 9:17 am

Microsoft employs 97,000 people (according to Wikipedia). Many of those will be experienced software / hardware engineers, and some few of those will be geeks. I can't believe none of those have bought a Raspberry Pi just to try. And at least one or two will have succeeded, at least to some extent.

So Windows on Pi will be a management decision. How much are they willing to give away to get it to run successfully? What would they gain by allowing it?

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Re: Windows Embedded Compact 2013

Sun Jun 16, 2013 10:07 am

There is an entire thread dedicated to windows CE already....

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Re: Windows Embedded Compact 2013

Sun Jun 16, 2013 11:14 am

6677 wrote:There is an entire thread dedicated to windows CE already....
And about a half a million threads dedicated to Windows in general...
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Re: Windows Embedded Compact 2013

Thu Jun 27, 2013 1:45 am

I have the trial images/toolkits for windows embedded 8, I am just not sure how to go about loading an image once I customize it. The problem seems to be getting a bootstrap on the rPi so that the image may be deployed/installed on the device.

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Re: Windows Embedded Compact 2013

Mon Sep 09, 2013 6:21 pm

Sounds amazing nobody tried a Microsoft solution on Raspi already.

I will roll up their sleeves and try all alternatives concerning.

For all those want know how it going, I will make you know...

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Re: Windows Embedded Compact 2013

Mon Sep 09, 2013 11:22 pm

What if we don't want to know?

What if many have already tried and it just ain't happenin'?
And some folks need to stop being fanboys and see the forest behind the trees.

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Re: Windows Embedded Compact 2013

Tue Sep 10, 2013 12:03 pm

Joe Schmoe wrote:What if we don't want to know?

What if many have already tried and it just ain't happenin'?
or they are like me, have access to the tools (I have ce6 right upto present) but no interest in attempting a pi build.

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Re: Windows Embedded Compact 2013

Thu Jan 09, 2014 1:46 am

Joe Schmoe wrote:What if we don't want to know?

What if many have already tried and it just ain't happenin'?
Oh, this is very simple to answer: Just don't read the post about it...

Always remember that your opinion isn't the everyone's and you aren't the owner of this place. So I will contribute as far as I understand that I can.

It that very clear?

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Re: Windows Embedded Compact 2013

Thu Jun 12, 2014 6:16 pm

I don't know about that specific version, but Microsoft Windows Embedded Compact 7 - March 2013 32/64-bit (English) lists the following read

Hardware requirements
• Approximately 100 GB of free hard disk space
• 2.4 GHz or higher CPU
• 1024 MB or more RAM
• 1280x1024 display
• 7200 RPM or higher hard disk

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Re: Windows Embedded Compact 2013

Fri Jun 13, 2014 4:11 am

Rhinorulz wrote:I don't know about that specific version, but Microsoft Windows Embedded Compact 7 - March 2013 32/64-bit (English) lists the following read

Hardware requirements
• Approximately 100 GB of free hard disk space
• 2.4 GHz or higher CPU
• 1024 MB or more RAM
• 1280x1024 display
• 7200 RPM or higher hard disk
Those specs are for the Windows Computer one builds the OS on http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/jj200354.aspx
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Re: Windows Embedded Compact 2013

Fri Jun 13, 2014 12:42 pm

If your Windows application is .Net (Java#, C#, F#, VB.Net, Cobol# etc) then you should be able to run it on Mono on Raspbian. The only major holes are that it won't support WPF. But we're happily running .Net 4.0 Winforms and console apps on Mono 3.4.

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Re: Windows Embedded Compact 2013

Thu Jun 18, 2015 10:28 pm

i tryed to port windows 8 RT to raspberry pi 2, there is a missing file for it and it couldn't be create without a microsoft phone oem account

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Re: Windows Embedded Compact 2013

Fri Jun 19, 2015 4:21 pm

SoftReaper wrote:i tryed to port windows 8 RT to raspberry pi 2, there is a missing file for it and it couldn't be create without a microsoft phone oem account
You are plain wrong.

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Re: Windows Embedded Compact 2013

Fri Jun 19, 2015 7:17 pm

I saw your post on my topic only now, i'll take a look at the wsdk

thanks and sorry for the missunderstood

=> more info from mimi123 on this topic: viewtopic.php?f=105&t=113100&sid=ddea92 ... 20#p776920

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Re: Windows Embedded Compact 2013

Mon Sep 28, 2015 1:17 pm

Hi,

I just want to confirm that it is possible to start a WinRT boot on a Raspberry PI 2 model B but than it stops with the error 0x000005C. I independently did the same test and came to the same conclusion. But I still think it must be possible to startup a WinRT version on the RP2.

I have to say i find it quite difficult to change the files on the partitions as windows doesn't want to let you alter more than one partion on a SD-card. I always have to do the following to change the SD-card:

1) First I create an empty VHD file ( use Hyper-V or disk management )
2) I connect it using disk management so it becomes a drive on my system
3) Then I install the FFU on to the VHD file by entering the following command in de command prompt:

dism.exe /Apply-Image /ImageFile:"C:\Program Files (x86)\Microsoft IoT\FFU\RaspberryPi2\flash.ffu" /ApplyDrive:"\\.\PHYSICALDRIVE1" /SkipPlatformCheck

HINT: make sure you enter the correct drive number!!! (look in disk management for your VHD disk drive number)

4) This creates all partitions in the VHD file and now I can open them like normal disks on my computer system.
5) I alter the files (Windows folder changed by WinRT windows folder in MainOS partition)
6) Lastly I use the "HDD Raw Copy Tool" [http://hddguru.com/software/HDD-Raw-Copy-Tool/] to copy the VHD file and all of its partions back to a physical SD-CARD
7) Boot from SD-CARD

This is very time consuming, are there any other techniques to fasten to process of trying to boot in WinRT?

Thanks,
Steven

P.S.: Please let me know if one of you can get it to boot a WinRT or Mobile version instead of IoT.

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Re: Windows Embedded Compact 2013

Mon Sep 28, 2015 3:06 pm

Wouldn't it be a lot more useful to work on getting Windows 98 working on the Pi?

It is both a lot more likely to work (many people have done it already) and more likely to actually be useful (you can actually run Windows apps on it).
And some folks need to stop being fanboys and see the forest behind the trees.

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Re: Windows Embedded Compact 2013

Mon Sep 28, 2015 3:28 pm

Joe Schmoe wrote:Wouldn't it be a lot more useful to work on getting Windows 98 working on the Pi?

It is both a lot more likely to work (many people have done it already) and more likely to actually be useful (you can actually run Windows apps on it).

Have you tried W3.x or W95 (FAT16 version 4.00.950 / 951) within DOSBOX .??
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Re: Windows Embedded Compact 2013

Mon Sep 28, 2015 3:36 pm

Windows 98 is X86 based so you can't run it on a raspberry Pi 2!
Than what do you mean with "many peoply have done it allready"?
I don't want to use an emulator for windows, I want to run Win RT natively on the RPI2 which is arm based!

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Re: Windows Embedded Compact 2013

Mon Sep 28, 2015 6:37 pm

it's possible to run a x86 os on a Rpi 1 or 2 with emulation but it's not really powerfull compared to an unlocked windows 8 RT (look at XDA x86 <=> ARM compatibility list)

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