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New to Pi - Micro SD Formatting Trouble

Mon Mar 12, 2018 11:12 pm

I will apologise in advance that I am inept with technology like the Raspberry Pi, as I have never used one before. I am, however, open to learning more about the device.

Over the past four months, I've been gathering all of the hardware I wanted to get my Pi functioning. I now have all of the necessary components, but it would appear as though I'm encountering software trouble.

NOOBS is the tool I will be using to install my first OS. I have followed the official tutorial, but when the SD card is inserted and everything is turned on, all I receive is a blank, white-lit display. There is a green-yellow light emanating from the Pi inside the case, if that is an indication of something important.

My setup consists of the following:

Raspberry Pi 3 model B
Case/Display - https://www.amazon.com/Geekworm-Raspber ... f=ast_p_ep
Keyboard - https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00I5SW8MC/?c ... _lig_dp_it
Mouse - https://www.amazon.com/Gear-Head-Wirele ... less+mouse
64 GB Storage Card - https://www.amazon.com/dp/B06XX29S9Q/?c ... _lig_dp_it
And a DC 5V supply from a wall outlet/power bank.

After some research online, it has come to my attention that my problem may lie in that I'm using a 64 GB Micro SD card, which is too much storage for Windows to format appropriately. However, my research has not yet turned up a clear, concise solution to my problem. If anyone knows how to fix my problem, I would appreciate your input.

Thank you and have a nice day.
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Re: New to Pi - Micro SD Formatting Trouble

Tue Mar 13, 2018 2:08 am

first idea:
you use: NOOBS and 64GB SD card
so it might be the 64GB formatting what went wrong
https://www.raspberrypi.org/learning/so ... uickstart/
https://www.raspberrypi.org/documentati ... matting.md

but better BURN that card with a RASPBIAN image
https://www.raspberrypi.org/documentati ... /README.md
or the new PINN image
TooltipTinkerer wrote:
Mon Mar 12, 2018 11:12 pm
Over the past four months, I've been gathering all of the hardware
well, a minimal setup would be:
-1- RPI3
-2- 8GB SD card
-3- powersupply
and do a setup what allows remote / headless operation ( ssh + wpa_supplicant.conf file trick )

TooltipTinkerer wrote:
Mon Mar 12, 2018 11:12 pm
AC 3.8V supply from a wall outlet.
that might be not usable

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Re: New to Pi - Micro SD Formatting Trouble

Tue Mar 13, 2018 2:40 am

You are not going to be able to get that screen working from a NOOBs install unless you first use a different monitor / HDMI TV to install Raspbian from NOOBs. NOOBs requires a working screen from the start.
Or forget NOOBs and install the 'standalone' image using Etcher. .. Easier and no formatting or unzipping is required...

The seller has provided a link with instructions http://raspberrypiwiki.com/index.php/2. ... SKU:398437
You can either download and install the sellers fully configured OS (instead of Raspbian as mentiond above)
-0R-
Follow the instructions to manually install the drivers on a working OS with a different screen attached or from another remote computer via SSH.
HOWEVER the instructions appear very outdated.
DO NOT do sudo rpi-update as shown in their instructions.

With luck you may get it to work. If not you will likely need to contact the seller for updated instructions and/or OS image.
Unless specified otherwise my response is based on the latest and fully updated Raspbian Stretch w/ Desktop OS.

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Re: New to Pi - Micro SD Formatting Trouble

Tue Mar 13, 2018 8:54 am

TooltipTinkerer wrote:
Mon Mar 12, 2018 11:12 pm
And a DC 5V supply from a power bank or an AC 3.8V supply from a wall outlet.
You need a 5V DC (or slightly higher) supply, preferably capable of 2.5A. It must have thick enough wires to avoid too much voltage drop. You cannot use an AC supply directly, it may damage your Pi.
Save yourself a lot of pain and get the official 5.1V 2.5A supply with 18AWG wires.
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Re: New to Pi - Micro SD Formatting Trouble

Thu Apr 05, 2018 1:30 am

I decided to use Kali Linux instead of the NOOBS loader, but it worked out as I intended it. In accordance with one of the suggestions, I am using an HDMI connection to my television screen as a temporary display. I have properly formatted the MicroSD thanks to the help of the user who have answered my original question, and now all I have to do is install the drivers for the 2.2 inch display. I have seen the download page for these drivers, but it appears to be an image file that I would need to write to my MicroSD card. This would overwrite my Kali image, would it not?

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Re: New to Pi - Micro SD Formatting Trouble

Thu Apr 05, 2018 8:31 am

TooltipTinkerer wrote:
Thu Apr 05, 2018 1:30 am
This would overwrite my Kali image, would it not?
Correct.

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Re: New to Pi - Micro SD Formatting Trouble

Thu Apr 05, 2018 9:01 am

TooltipTinkerer wrote:
Thu Apr 05, 2018 1:30 am
I decided to use Kali Linux instead of the NOOBS loader, but it worked out as I intended it. In accordance with one of the suggestions, I am using an HDMI connection to my television screen as a temporary display. I have properly formatted the MicroSD thanks to the help of the user who have answered my original question, and now all I have to do is install the drivers for the 2.2 inch display. I have seen the download page for these drivers, but it appears to be an image file that I would need to write to my MicroSD card. This would overwrite my Kali image, would it not?

Kali support their software:

https://forums.kali.org
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Re: New to Pi - Micro SD Formatting Trouble

Thu Apr 05, 2018 8:36 pm

Again, I'd like to apologise for my inexperience. I don't mean to be a bother.
It stands to reason that I'll have to remove Kali from my Micro SD card, which shouldn't be a hassle. I haven't actually done anything with it yet, so I can remove it without losing any valuable data.
At the moment, my current sequence of events looks like this:
1. Remove Kali.
2. Download the 2.2 inch TFT display drivers from here - http://www.raspberrypiwiki.com/index.ph ... SKU:398437
3. Install those drivers on the Pi.
4. Reinstall Kali upon completion of the driver installation.
5. Profit...?
What I need to know in order to proceed:
1. How do I remove Kali safely, without damaging or corruption the card.
2. Which steps on the display's wiki page (http://www.raspberrypiwiki.com/index.ph ... SKU:398437) do I actually follow? I was told previously that 'sudo rpi - update' could be dangerous.
3. What do I do with the display driver once it has finished installing? Do I simply rewrite my desired Linux kernel over it, or do I remove it first? If so, how would I do that?

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Re: New to Pi - Micro SD Formatting Trouble

Thu Apr 05, 2018 11:11 pm

TooltipTinkerer wrote:
Thu Apr 05, 2018 8:36 pm
Again, I'd like to apologise for my inexperience. I don't mean to be a bother.
It stands to reason that I'll have to remove Kali from my Micro SD card, which shouldn't be a hassle. I haven't actually done anything with it yet, so I can remove it without losing any valuable data.
At the moment, my current sequence of events looks like this:
1. Remove Kali.
2. Download the 2.2 inch TFT display drivers from here - http://www.raspberrypiwiki.com/index.ph ... SKU:398437
3. Install those drivers on the Pi.
4. Reinstall Kali upon completion of the driver installation.
5. Profit...?
What I need to know in order to proceed:
1. How do I remove Kali safely, without damaging or corruption the card.
2. Which steps on the display's wiki page (http://www.raspberrypiwiki.com/index.ph ... SKU:398437) do I actually follow? I was told previously that 'sudo rpi - update' could be dangerous.
3. What do I do with the display driver once it has finished installing? Do I simply rewrite my desired Linux kernel over it, or do I remove it first? If so, how would I do that?
You have not understood that installing Kali OS overwrites everything that was on the card beforehand including the TFT display drivers.

To use the display with Kali you would need either:

1. A distribution of Kali which already includes the TFT display drivers.

or

2. To install Kali and then install a build of the TFT drivers which work with Kali.

I do not know if what you need for 1 or 2 exists.

Kali is not supported here. Seek help from Kali support forum or use Raspbian.

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Re: New to Pi - Micro SD Formatting Trouble

Fri Apr 06, 2018 1:39 am

Thank you for the information, I was unaware that this forum was designed exclusively for Rasbian users. I will go consult elsewhere.

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Re: New to Pi - Micro SD Formatting Trouble

Fri Apr 06, 2018 2:46 am

TooltipTinkerer wrote:
Fri Apr 06, 2018 1:39 am
Thank you for the information, I was unaware that this forum was designed exclusively for Rasbian users. I will go consult elsewhere.
The assertion that Raspbian is the only OS that we are allowed to talk about on this forum is, of course, nonsense. If this were the Raspbian sub-forum, then it might make some sense, but it isn't, so it doesn't.

I don't know if there is a Kali sub-forum. I know there are sub-forums for a lot of the other available Pi OSes.

Now, the above is all de jure. Unfortunately, there is a de facto movement amongst certain regulars to act as if Raspbian is the Windows of the Pi world.
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Re: New to Pi - Micro SD Formatting Trouble

Fri Apr 06, 2018 3:23 am

n67 wrote:
Fri Apr 06, 2018 2:46 am
The assertion that Raspbian is the only OS that we are allowed to talk about on this forum is, of course, nonsense.
yes, the only question is "where" you are more lucky to get a valid answer from experienced / actual users.

like at the first days after RPI3 B+ came out, here was the right place to get the answer " XXX OS is old and can not run on 'our' new hardware "
now, some weeks later it could be better to ask htps://www.XXX_OS/forum/
what is the status about that development, where can download some BETA...

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