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RISC OS released on Raspberry Pi

Fri Oct 26, 2012 9:48 pm

New topic, so it isn't buried in the other one:

Today RISC OS Pi has been released. You can get it from the Raspberry Pi download site, with this torrent, or buy it on SD card from RISC OS Open Ltd.

Also available is NutPi, a pack of discount commercial software to supplement the Raspberry Pi release.

Both will be available tomorrow (27th October) at the RISC OS London Show, St Giles Hotel, Feltham, London, 11am to 5pm, £5 on the door, under-16s free, or free entry if you bring along a Raspberry Pi project to demo! (email show organisers to register)

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Re: RISC OS released on Raspberry Pi

Fri Oct 26, 2012 11:34 pm

Congratulations to all involved!

I'm downloading right now and will have a look at RISC OS for the first time i many a year... :D
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Re: RISC OS released on Raspberry Pi

Sat Oct 27, 2012 12:35 am

Hurray, (throwing my hat in the air)! :D

Its worth a front page mention I think. :P

will definitely trying it soon, (as soon as I can find the time).

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Re: RISC OS released on Raspberry Pi

Sat Oct 27, 2012 12:38 am

i'm probably going to have to get a new kb & mouse just for riscos as the logitech mk400 doesn't seem to give 3rd mouse button by pressing left & right buttons but yay! /me does the happy dance :)

the NutPi sd card looks good too, must add that to my christmas list

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Re: RISC OS released on Raspberry Pi

Sat Oct 27, 2012 7:03 am

Very stable and solid by looks of things!

I'm running overclocked @1000 Mhz without glitches and the only thing I could notice was overscan with icons outside the screen, but that's down to config I guess and I'll address this later today.

Have installed a small php web server and will now dig into sensor reading. If it all works then my new weather server will run on RISC OS :mrgreen:

Lots of nostalgic moments and I have forgotten more than I remembered, but if that's down to "old" age or the fact that plenty has happened since my last session with RISC OS I leave unanswered... hehe...

What I do miss (unless I'm blind) is an ftp client, sshd/remote access and a better editor.
I would like to access this platform remotely if possible.

Well done chaps!!!
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Re: RISC OS released on Raspberry Pi

Sat Oct 27, 2012 7:22 am

Sorry to sound dumb, but are there are any screenshots of what it looks like? Or is it the same GUI as other Raspberry Pi releases?


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Re: RISC OS released on Raspberry Pi

Sat Oct 27, 2012 8:20 am

Looking forward to this - thank you for the work needed to make this possible.
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Re: RISC OS released on Raspberry Pi

Sat Oct 27, 2012 10:38 am

Congratulations to the people of ROOL for this!
I'm dowloading the image now, and will be sure to ger NutPi too!

Now, if we could get some Archimedes games patched for the Pi, to show system to people and get they hooked... :roll:

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Re: RISC OS released on Raspberry Pi

Sat Oct 27, 2012 1:01 pm

@wizard

Have a look at !Zap and !StrongED editors, !FTPc and !Nettle (terminal) Nettle supports SSH but unfortunately it's not straightforward.

@ukscone

Have you tried clicking the scroll wheel? I'm using a Logitech wireless mouse myself, could be different to your setup though

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Re: RISC OS released on Raspberry Pi

Sat Oct 27, 2012 1:11 pm

For ssh you could try the packages offered by PackMan (NettleSSH, Openssh) but I'm not sure if they've been updated for ARMv6/v7.

An up-to-date FTP client can be found here: http://www.ftpc.iconbar.com/
PackMan only seems to offer an older (1.44 vs 1.48) version which probably won't work on the RPi.

As for a better editor, I believe both Zap and StrongED are included. These are the two top editors for RISC OS, give them a try and see which one you like best.

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Re: RISC OS released on Raspberry Pi

Sat Oct 27, 2012 4:26 pm

Tide wrote:
@ukscone

Have you tried clicking the scroll wheel? I'm using a Logitech wireless mouse myself, could be different to your setup though
the logitech mk400 combined keyboard & trackpad

http://www.mountain.es/WebRoot/Store/Sh ... k400_1.jpg

doesn't have a scroll wheel and pressing both left & right at the same time doesn't work as 3rd button either.. :(

off to the keyboard & mouse store later :)

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Re: RISC OS released on Raspberry Pi

Sat Oct 27, 2012 4:51 pm

ukscone wrote: the logitech mk400 combined keyboard & trackpad
Ok missed that. There's a module that lets you use the Windows(TM) key as third mouse button. I'm not sure however if it runs on the Pi.

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Re: RISC OS released on Raspberry Pi

Sat Oct 27, 2012 5:02 pm

Tide wrote:
ukscone wrote: the logitech mk400 combined keyboard & trackpad
Ok missed that. There's a module that lets you use the Windows(TM) key as third mouse button. I'm not sure however if it runs on the Pi.
there is? great i'll check that out and see if does. i like my mk400 kb, works a treat on the raspi

i actually know nowt about riscos as it came out after i was out of school and was working on other things but always wanted to give it a try and it looks great so far on the raspi.

[must remember to add the NutPi sd card to my christmas list as well as that looks like a nice bundle of commercial s/w, maybe i can dump a couple of windows machines for raspi's as it seems to have most of what i need to keep windows machines around for :) ]

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Re: RISC OS released on Raspberry Pi

Sat Oct 27, 2012 5:29 pm

@ukscone

I'll try and relay the info back to you so watch this space.
Means you could spend the money on the NutPi package instead ;-)
I guess some of the software will be a slightly cut down versions but it's still an extremely attractive option.

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Re: RISC OS released on Raspberry Pi

Sat Oct 27, 2012 5:44 pm

Go here: http://www.effarig.co.uk/riscos/

and download http://www.effarig.co.uk/riscos/download/keymap.zip
Open Configure, click Boot and add the keymapper to "run"
There should be a help file (shift, left click on apps to open them as directories and look what's inside) to get you started.
I have a dummy app in my utilities Called !KeymapMW it contains the KeyMapper Module plus the following !run file
RMEnsure KeyMapper RMLoad <Obey$Dir>.KeyMapper
KeyMap 104 112
KeyMap 106 113
KeyMap 105 114
Depending on your setup of course

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Sat Oct 27, 2012 5:50 pm

Tide wrote:@wizard

Have a look at !Zap and !StrongED editors, !FTPc and !Nettle (terminal) Nettle supports SSH but unfortunately it's not straightforward.
SEDev wrote:For ssh you could try the packages offered by PackMan (NettleSSH, Openssh) but I'm not sure if they've been updated for ARMv6/v7.

An up-to-date FTP client can be found here: http://www.ftpc.iconbar.com/
PackMan only seems to offer an older (1.44 vs 1.48) version which probably won't work on the RPi.

As for a better editor, I believe both Zap and StrongED are included. These are the two top editors for RISC OS, give them a try and see which one you like best.
Many thanks!
Will look into yer recommendations now!
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Sat Oct 27, 2012 6:02 pm

Tide wrote:Go here: http://www.effarig.co.uk/riscos/

and download http://www.effarig.co.uk/riscos/download/keymap.zip
Open Configure, click Boot and add the keymapper to "run"
There should be a help file (shift, left click on apps to open them as directories and look what's inside) to get you started.
I have a dummy app in my utilities Called !KeymapMW it contains the KeyMapper Module plus the following !run file
RMEnsure KeyMapper RMLoad <Obey$Dir>.KeyMapper
KeyMap 104 112
KeyMap 106 113
KeyMap 105 114
Depending on your setup of course
thanks, i'll give it a go

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Re: RISC OS released on Raspberry Pi

Sun Oct 28, 2012 11:53 am

There's also "3rd Button" which does the same thing:
http://www.thomas-milius.privat.t-onlin ... Button.zip

Won't work with the Lapdock mod but of course there's a hack available ;-)

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Re: RISC OS released on Raspberry Pi

Sun Oct 28, 2012 10:24 pm

Hopefully I will be showing this off at the Wakefield RISCOC computer club on Wednesday 7th November as I am giving them a talk that night.
Visitors welcome:-
http://www.wrocc.org.uk/

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Re: RISC OS released on Raspberry Pi

Mon Oct 29, 2012 12:44 am

Tide wrote:There's also "3rd Button" which does the same thing:
http://www.thomas-milius.privat.t-onlin ... Button.zip
And if that's not enough, there's
http://www.7thsoftware.co.uk/download/other/winmenu.zip

Well, one of them should work for you I guess :D

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Mon Oct 29, 2012 2:03 pm

I downloaded RiscOS yesterday. I have to admit that it was weird and great to go back to it. When I started secondary school (back in the very late 80's!) my school had loads on networked BBC Micros'. As time went on they were upgraded to the Archimedies. This brings back all those memories! Going into the computer lab at lunch to sneek in an outlawed game (we were only permitted to use the computers for 'educational' use LOL).

I look forward to getting to know it again. Out of interest, are there any tutorials on programming for RiscOS? I remember with my BBC it came with a massive manual with all the BASIC commands. Is there an online version of that for RiscOS?

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Re: RISC OS released on Raspberry Pi

Mon Oct 29, 2012 6:02 pm

Is there an online version of that for RiscOS?
Yes try http://foundation.riscos.com/Private/manuals/

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Re: RISC OS released on Raspberry Pi

Mon Oct 29, 2012 7:17 pm

I'm getting a server error when trying to go to riscosopen.org (I'm assuming their site may be down cause of traffic). Is the link in the original post the official release (cause it says RC5...was nothing changed between RC5 and the official?)

Thanks!

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Re: RISC OS released on Raspberry Pi

Mon Oct 29, 2012 7:25 pm

Things are coming together but it's been a while ;)

I'm a bit embarrassed to admit but it took me over an hour to shutdown my Raspi with RISC OS...

...the icons were outside the screen :lol:

My webserver runs really well and most php stuff does what its supposed to do but I have yet to wire in my sensors via GPIO. I must have a butchers at the documentation first since I'm more or less in the dark when it comes to GPIO and RISC OS.

It runs very fast though... It feels much faster than Debian to be honest!

Since I have no clue about security on the RISC OS Raspi build I won't post the URL just yet.
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