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RISCOS and wireless?

Posted: Fri Jan 13, 2017 5:03 pm
by Martin Frezman
Does RISCOS support WiFi at all?

On boot, I get a message about it trying to connect via Ethernet, but nothing about WiFi? Is the problem that it doesn't support my Wifi dongle or is it that it doesn't support WiFi at all?

Re: RISCOS and wireless?

Posted: Sat Jan 14, 2017 10:35 am
by dfeugey
No, there is no WiFi support... for now. It's possible, as WiFi support was once available on RISC OS computers. But not today.

Re: RISCOS and wireless?

Posted: Sat Jan 14, 2017 12:49 pm
by Martin Frezman
OK. Thanks.

Re: RISCOS and wireless?

Posted: Sun Mar 04, 2018 1:05 pm
by Micha1982
Does this change at any time maybe, is anyone working on it? Without internet/wifi it makes no sense to try it out at all to me.

Re: RISCOS and wireless?

Posted: Sun Mar 04, 2018 1:11 pm
by fruitoftheloom
Micha1982 wrote:
Sun Mar 04, 2018 1:05 pm
Does this change at any time maybe, is anyone working on it? Without internet/wifi it makes no sense to try it out at all to me.

The Developers do not hang out here:

https://www.riscosopen.org/content/down ... spberry-pi

Re: RISCOS and wireless?

Posted: Mon Mar 05, 2018 12:25 pm
by dfeugey
Internet works... with an Ethernet cable. For WiFi, you'll have to wait, but it's high on the RISC OS' todo list.

Re: RISCOS and wireless?

Posted: Tue Apr 10, 2018 4:51 am
by DavidS
Micha1982 wrote:
Sun Mar 04, 2018 1:05 pm
Does this change at any time maybe, is anyone working on it? Without internet/wifi it makes no sense to try it out at all to me.
For a desktop computer (such as a RPi with RISC OS) WiFi does not make any since. Use Ethernet instead, like you would with any desktop computer, it works quite well.

You can get on the internet using Ethernet. And there is a LOT MORE to computing than just accessing the internet.

Re: RISCOS and wireless?

Posted: Wed Jun 27, 2018 3:52 am
by handsomegenius
DavidS wrote:
Tue Apr 10, 2018 4:51 am
For a desktop computer (such as a RPi with RISC OS) WiFi does not make any since.
It's totally the other way around IMO.

The files you need for your Risc OS projects are so small, that there's no real need to worry about plugging straight into the router if it's not conveniently placed.

Here's how I'm dealing with it: http://oi67.tinypic.com/2lm2yrs.jpg

The Pi on the left is running Raspbian - it's mostly a home theatre and retro gaming rig, but I configured dnsmasq for it to serve double duty as a wireless bridge as well.

It works pretty well - I can download files to Risc OS without interrupting my album streaming on youtube. It isn't the fastest way to connect to the internet, but Risc OS doesn't really need it.

Re: RISCOS and wireless?

Posted: Tue Feb 26, 2019 1:54 pm
by rbreslin
It's not very good not to support wifi.

I am a home/bobbyist and my method of working is the VNC or SSH into my pi from a convenient laptop. I don't have a monitor set up on a table. My pi's are not near to a nework hub (so I'd have to trail cables all through the house). How very inconvenient. Sadly, I will abandon use of Risc OS until it gets its wifi sorted out.

Re: RISCOS and wireless?

Posted: Tue Feb 26, 2019 3:06 pm
by DavidS
rbreslin wrote:
Tue Feb 26, 2019 1:54 pm
It's not very good not to support wifi.

I am a home/bobbyist and my method of working is the VNC or SSH into my pi from a convenient laptop. I don't have a monitor set up on a table. My pi's are not near to a nework hub (so I'd have to trail cables all through the house). How very inconvenient. Sadly, I will abandon use of Risc OS until it gets its wifi sorted out.
How does any of that prevent you from using an Ethernet connection, plug in the network cable to the RPi's?

You still need to hook up a monitor long enough to set up VNC on the RPi to begin with.

Re: RISCOS and wireless?

Posted: Tue Feb 26, 2019 7:25 pm
by code_exec
RISC simply doesn't have the drivers for the Pi 3's built-in WiFi. The devs also can't make drivers because the Raspberry Pi hardware, including the WiFi chip, is proprietary.

Re: RISCOS and wireless?

Posted: Tue Feb 26, 2019 7:28 pm
by code_exec
DavidS wrote:
Tue Apr 10, 2018 4:51 am
Micha1982 wrote:
Sun Mar 04, 2018 1:05 pm
Does this change at any time maybe, is anyone working on it? Without internet/wifi it makes no sense to try it out at all to me.
For a desktop computer (such as a RPi with RISC OS) WiFi does not make any since. Use Ethernet instead, like you would with any desktop computer, it works quite well.

You can get on the internet using Ethernet. And there is a LOT MORE to computing than just accessing the internet.
Not everyone uses Ethernet cables to connect to the internet. I use wireless on my laptop, Raspberry Pi 3 (running Ubuntu 18.04), tablets, and phone. Someone's router may be in the living room, while their computer room is upstairs. But they also have a laptop downstairs in the living room using the Ethernet connection! Ethernet is fast but not always convenient.

Re: RISCOS and wireless?

Posted: Sat Mar 02, 2019 4:07 pm
by DavidS
code_exec wrote:
Tue Feb 26, 2019 7:28 pm
DavidS wrote:
Tue Apr 10, 2018 4:51 am
Micha1982 wrote:
Sun Mar 04, 2018 1:05 pm
Does this change at any time maybe, is anyone working on it? Without internet/wifi it makes no sense to try it out at all to me.
For a desktop computer (such as a RPi with RISC OS) WiFi does not make any since. Use Ethernet instead, like you would with any desktop computer, it works quite well.

You can get on the internet using Ethernet. And there is a LOT MORE to computing than just accessing the internet.
Not everyone uses Ethernet cables to connect to the internet. I use wireless on my laptop, Raspberry Pi 3 (running Ubuntu 18.04), tablets, and phone. Someone's router may be in the living room, while their computer room is upstairs. But they also have a laptop downstairs in the living room using the Ethernet connection! Ethernet is fast but not always convenient.
Sounds like good reasons to avoid WiFi in my personal book. If there is both vertical gaps and horizontal gaps in space from the WiFi point then signal quickly becomes an issue, and Ethernet becomes more desirable.

I actually purchased USB Ethernet adapters for use with my Tablet PC, Phone, and other devices that did not come with an Ethernet adapter builtin. I only have WiFi for my phone when I am not sitting at one of my computer desks.

Of course the WiFi for my phone is a bit backwards to most, as my internet connection comes through my cell phone. It is the only internet available to me.

Re: RISCOS and wireless?

Posted: Sun May 12, 2019 5:10 pm
by bnedwek
A small wireless bridge (this looks good but haven't used it yet: https://www.netgear.com/home/products/n ... R2000.aspx) would solve this problem nicely.