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Looking at ARCH

Mon Jul 11, 2016 5:33 am

Im somewhat new to linux, however everything is only a search away so i've found ot to be a good environment. I am contemplating getting arch on a secondary SD to tool around with. I understand ARCH is very different from other distros and almost everything has to be configured. Any recomendations or things to be aware of when entering into the OS?
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Re: Looking at ARCH

Mon Jul 11, 2016 5:36 am

Arch is a great distro, and the documentation is outstanding. But it's a rolling release with bleeding edge packaging, so know what you're installing. Read the PKGBUILD's. And the Arch Alarm website has a great walkthrough of how to install. It's not just burning an image, you're rolling your own. Give it a try and post here if you have any issues.
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Re: Looking at ARCH

Mon Jul 11, 2016 5:41 am

I am playing around with arch on my PineA64; similar in most respects to the Raspberry PI 3B, but with more memory on a larger foot-print (index card sized).

Yes, arch is manual; which is good, because it will force you to learn gnu+linux.

For instance to get wifi going you will need to manually configure it /

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ip link set wlan0 up

ip link show wlan0

ip dev wlan0 scan | less

iw dev wlan0 link

wpa_supplicant -D nl80211 -i wlan0 -c <(wpa_passphrase "ssid_host_id" "ssid_pass_phrase" ) &

dhcpcd wlan0

You can of course automate all of that... but arch makes you do it yourself !

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Re: Looking at ARCH

Mon Jul 11, 2016 6:23 am

MarkHaysHarris777 wrote:I am playing around with arch on my PineA64; similar in most respects to the Raspberry PI 3B, but with more memory on a larger foot-print (index card sized).

Yes, arch is manual; which is good, because it will force you to learn gnu+linux.

For instance to get wifi going you will need to manually configure it /

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ip link set wlan0 up

ip link show wlan0

ip dev wlan0 scan | less

iw dev wlan0 link

wpa_supplicant -D nl80211 -i wlan0 -c <(wpa_passphrase "ssid_host_id" "ssid_pass_phrase" ) &

dhcpcd wlan0

You can of course automate all of that... but arch makes you do it yourself !

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Re: Looking at ARCH

Tue Jul 12, 2016 6:43 am

Celebrating Primeday by getting another Samsung EVO+ as per http://www.jeffgeerling.com/blogs/jeff- ... crosd-card just for arch.
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Re: Looking at ARCH

Tue Jul 12, 2016 3:21 pm

ruralguru wrote:Celebrating Primeday by getting another Samsung EVO+ as per http://www.jeffgeerling.com/blogs/jeff- ... crosd-card just for arch.
http://www.pidramble.com/wiki/benchmarks/microsd-cards
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Re: Looking at ARCH

Fri Jul 15, 2016 4:04 am

SonOfAMotherlessGoat wrote:Arch is a great distro, and the documentation is outstanding. But it's a rolling release with bleeding edge packaging, so know what you're installing. Read the PKGBUILD's. And the Arch Alarm website has a great walkthrough of how to install. It's not just burning an image, you're rolling your own. Give it a try and post here if you have any issues.
Got it rolled fine (not exactly sure what rolling my own in this context means). Had to augment the bsdtar.
Have spent a few hours at the pretty flashing cursor... still don't know enough to get anything to work. Any recomendations on where to start?
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Re: Looking at ARCH

Sun Jul 17, 2016 5:03 pm

Hard to give you suggestions or tips without knowing what you want to do with ArchLinuxArm on your Pi. You can pretty much do whatever you want, just consider it another computer at your disposal. The difference is very little is pre-installed, so you will need to install the packages that are required for your end goals. You will need to learn how to use our package manager, pacman. Man page is good as a reference, but best to find a tutorial, and I really think to wait until you hve something you want to install, so you can learn as you try to use it.
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Re: Looking at ARCH

Sun Jul 17, 2016 6:47 pm

Creating A Desktop Environment
To install an X environment (eg lxde) log in as user alarm, then su to become root (password default is root)

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pacman -Syu
pacman -S lxde xf86-video-fbdev xorg-xinit
Add this to bottom of /home/alarm/.xinitrc

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exec dbus-launch startlxde
You could now start lxde logged in as alarm by running

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startx
You will be running as user named alarm with password alarm (if you haven't changed it)
Make logging in as user alarm launch lxde automatically
Add this to bottom of /home/alarm/.bash_profile

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[[ -z $DISPLAY && $XDG_VTNR -eq 1 ]] && exec startx
To automatically go straight into lxde, logged in as alarm, from boot
Now create this file

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systemctl edit getty@tty1
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[Service]
ExecStart=
ExecStart=-/usr/bin/agetty --autologin alarm --noclear %I 38400 Linux
Untested, but should work

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Re: Looking at ARCH

Mon Jul 18, 2016 3:43 am

pepedog wrote: Untested, but should work
Hey, you forget wifi networkmanager etc.

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Re: Looking at ARCH

Mon Jul 18, 2016 6:42 am

Trust pepedog, the guy knows his Arch.
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Re: Looking at ARCH

Tue Jul 19, 2016 11:53 pm

Will the lxde thats a good start. Mostly I have no idea what I want to do since I can't do anything yet.
Any good references for the pi with arch?
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Re: Looking at ARCH

Wed Jul 20, 2016 5:38 am

ruralguru wrote:Will the lxde thats a good start. Mostly I have no idea what I want to do since I can't do anything yet.
Any good references for the pi with arch?
most fun is play with AUR & PKGBUILD.

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Re: Looking at ARCH

Wed Jul 20, 2016 8:30 am

ruralguru wrote:Will the lxde thats a good start. Mostly I have no idea what I want to do since I can't do anything yet.
Any good references for the pi with arch?
You say above you have a flashing cursor, no login prompt showing???????
Don't know your definition of start either.

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Re: Looking at ARCH

Wed Jul 20, 2016 9:04 am

ruralguru wrote:Will the lxde thats a good start. Mostly I have no idea what I want to do since I can't do anything yet.
Any good references for the pi with arch?
Found this on Wayback Machine, believe the blogger used to be a Forum Member, so a little out of date but basics are there:

http://web.archive.org/web/201303160210 ... spot.co.uk

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