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Re: ArchlinuxARM on Raspberry Pi

Mon May 07, 2012 11:56 am

Liam Fraser said:


The latest image is the 29th of april. Pepedog has posted it on the 1st of may (few posts back)

Not sure why it's not on the downloads page yet. Will get onto Liz and Eben.


Yeah, I was wondering that too - the lazy layabouts!


May want to try that


pacman'ing as I type

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Re: ArchlinuxARM on Raspberry Pi

Mon May 07, 2012 12:03 pm

It's on the downloads page now .

Hope it goes well for you!

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Re: ArchlinuxARM on Raspberry Pi

Mon May 07, 2012 12:24 pm

Liam Fraser said:


It's on the downloads page now .

Hope it goes well for you!


Thanks Liam... and on a UK Bank Holiday too!

(Mind you with typical English Bank Holiday weather, what else is there to do? )

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Re: ArchlinuxARM on Raspberry Pi

Mon May 07, 2012 12:27 pm

I'm afraid my day is consisting of phone shopping after I found out my old one has been through the wash

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Re: ArchlinuxARM on Raspberry Pi

Mon May 07, 2012 12:39 pm

Liam Fraser said:


I'm afraid my day is consisting of phone shopping after I found out my old one has been through the wash


well at least it's nice and clean

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Re: ArchlinuxARM on Raspberry Pi

Mon May 07, 2012 4:16 pm

SUCCESS!

OK, downloaded 29-04-12, 'burnt' to the card, setup, got lxde working WITH mouse!

Got Geany & Python working together. As Dom says, Arch feels more spritely than Debian, looking good.

I'd like to be able to view web pages so I can lookup documentation. However:

1. Netsurf doesn't even put in a showing

2. Midori launches, opens Google (default page) and then crashes out, mostly when I try and click some thing, sometimes just when the pointer is moved over the window.

3. FireFox won't install because pacman is having problems getting hold of XULRunner.

I'll work on figuring out logs and crash info and getting FireFox installed but in the meanwhile ...

... am I expecting too much too soon?

Happy to carry on testing - next I'll look at web serving & some such.

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Re: ArchlinuxARM on Raspberry Pi

Mon May 07, 2012 4:40 pm

Ok, I"m going to recommend lynx (not the armpit one) for browsing, real fast

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Re: ArchlinuxARM on Raspberry Pi

Mon May 07, 2012 5:13 pm

lol, too much too soon I guess - lynx it is then! Will I be mobbed by hundreds of women??

xfce works nicely but no joy with:

netsurf - will track down the missing liblcms.

midori - segmentation fault - will try a native compile.

firefox - xulrunner missing from all mirrors - will try to compile.

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Re: ArchlinuxARM on Raspberry Pi

Mon May 07, 2012 5:18 pm

Chromium works well under debian - does it work with Arch?

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Re: ArchlinuxARM on Raspberry Pi

Mon May 07, 2012 6:18 pm

Think chromium might need xulrunner too

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Re: ArchlinuxARM on Raspberry Pi

Mon May 07, 2012 6:33 pm

I scraped the Debian chromium out of various debs and dependencies. Not a lot of help (slightly more stable on Debian, but that's damning with faint praise). It's too old (chromium 6?) to be useful (ad block won't install). So here also, xulrunner is building. I recall giving up on gentoo many years (>10) ago because of  continual firefox rebuilds ... deja vu.

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Re: ArchlinuxARM on Raspberry Pi

Mon May 07, 2012 6:43 pm

netsurf just needed lcms installing - so I can now graphically surf.

midori's ./waf configure bums out and I'm adding print "you are here" statements to try to find why.

firefox's xulrunner source being downloaded now (it's already built for armv7 but not 5).

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Re: ArchlinuxARM on Raspberry Pi

Mon May 07, 2012 6:48 pm

nmcc said:


midori's ./waf configure bums out and I'm adding print "you are here" statements to try to find why.

midori-git builds just fine. Alas, it is no more stable than community/midori.


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Re: ArchlinuxARM on Raspberry Pi

Mon May 07, 2012 7:03 pm

With mpthompson building debian for hard float, I am curious if arch would also benefit from being build with hf?

And if so, is someone (considering) working on this?

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Re: ArchlinuxARM on Raspberry Pi

Mon May 07, 2012 7:27 pm

Nr90, you are welcome to discuss hard float with our builder, biggest hurdle is 6gb server storage, then convince him it"s beneficial, he don"t have a pi
Spennig and nmcc, appreciate help on this

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Re: ArchlinuxARM on Raspberry Pi

Mon May 07, 2012 7:47 pm

pepedog said:


biggest hurdle is 6gb server storage,


Where and what for?


then convince him it"s beneficial, he don"t have a pi


That may be an easy $35 spend!

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Re: ArchlinuxARM on Raspberry Pi

Mon May 07, 2012 8:25 pm

pepedog said:


Nr90, you are welcome to discuss hard float with our builder, biggest hurdle is 6gb server storage, then convince him it"s beneficial, he don"t have a pi
Spennig and nmcc, appreciate help on this


Having started yesterday to build omxplayer on the device (which has a 16G Class 10 SD card), I soon reverted to QEMU (which I can give more memory, plus I think emulated HDD I/O is faster than native SD), even then it took hours. How long does building Arch take? Weeks, months? It looks like a lot of pain for a small gain.

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Re: ArchlinuxARM on Raspberry Pi

Mon May 07, 2012 8:55 pm

Nmcc, apparently the server(s) the repos on doesn"t have room
As for getting a pi, I think he fell into same trap as me, I delayed ordering, delivery days put me off, and stuck in that loop.
Spennig, well building on pi with distcc to crosstools roars along, only slows down doing LD and packing. Kernel takes about 10 minutes, then 20 minutes doing rest.
No one gets paid on alarm, relies on donations.

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Re: ArchlinuxARM on Raspberry Pi

Wed May 09, 2012 12:38 pm

Running arch on raspberry pi, open box, tint2.

1.I want running some browser , but midori crashing, firefox (error: failed retrieving file 'xulrunner-1.9.2.15-2-arm.pkg.tar.xz' from mirror.archlinuxarm.org : The requested URL returned error: 404).

Which browser recommended? Which is working?

2.want play iptv. Install vlc, and dont play, return some no xvideo driver error.

Which player recommended.

3.alsa sound driver, modprobe snd-bcm2835 is ok.

How install this module automaticly?

Thanx for ideas, recommendation.

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Re: ArchlinuxARM on Raspberry Pi

Wed May 09, 2012 6:19 pm

trn said:


Running arch on raspberry pi, open box, tint2.


For this combo you may want to consider the standard Debian release and check out the OpenELEC & xmbc threads too.

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Re: ArchlinuxARM on Raspberry Pi

Wed May 09, 2012 6:41 pm

Hey, trn!

3.) Almost everything important can be configured in /etc/rc.conf. Edit this file with an editor of your choice, for beginners nano is recommanded:

nano /etc/rc.conf

(You need to be root or use sudo)

In /etc/rc.conf the is a section called hardware, where you should find

MODULES=()

Just change it to

MODULES=(snd-bcm2835)

and the module will be loaded on every boot. Btw: Most modules are loaded automatically, so put only modules that aren't autodetected in there.

2) As you say VLC does not start because of a missing xvideo driver. This is because there is at the moment no such driver for Raspberry Pi. What happens if you choose the opengl driver? (I don't have I Raspberry Pi, so I can't try.) I think the x11 driver would also work, but it is most likely to be much to slow.

1) The strength of Arch Linux is the ability to write PKGBUILDS. A PKGBUILD is a cooking recipe of building a specifig package. Once you have your PKGBUILD, you can build your package with

makepkg

within the folder of your PKGBUILD. You can install the package after this with "pacman -U".

If you have installed "abs" and you run

abs

in a terminal, you will get PKGBUILDS of all packages that are available in Arch Linux. The PKGBUILDS are located in /var/abs/$repository/$package-name/PKGBUILD. Where $repository is the repository (like core, extra, community, …) and $package-name is the name of the package. Make sure you copy the hole folder containing you PKGBUILD somewhere in your homefolder:

cp /var/abs/extra/xulrunner $HOME -R

You will notice, that the PKGBUILD doesn't compile out of the box, because abs will catch only x86 / x86-64 PKGBUILDS. But in 99% of the cases just adding "arm" to the arch section of the PKGBUILD will work out of the box.

You are also free to use

makepkg -A

because the "-A" will force makepkg to cook your package even if it is not for your architecture.

If you really want to see how linux works I recommend you to keep using Arch Linux instead of Debian. You propably will need a bit more help at the beginning, but it's totally worth the trouble! There are very nice people in the arch forum (both archlinux.org and archlinuxarm.org) who will help you.

Cheers,

Maribu

PS: Sorry for my lack of English

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Re: ArchlinuxARM on Raspberry Pi

Wed May 09, 2012 8:38 pm

My first touch with arch.

If i dont get raspPi then dont view arch.

And i like arch.

On notebook use crunchbang, i like openbox.

More that package built, i like configure make.

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Re: ArchlinuxARM on Raspberry Pi

Thu May 10, 2012 3:18 am

nmcc said:


trn said:


Running arch on raspberry pi, open box, tint2.


For this combo you may want to consider the standard Debian release and check out the OpenELEC & xmbc threads too.


Why stick with Debian? Arch/OpenBox/tint2 is a pretty lightweight combo, no? However I myself am having a lot of trouble getting SLiM and OpenBox to autostart after editing /rc.conf and /.xinitrc . Is this a ArchArm issue?

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Re: ArchlinuxARM on Raspberry Pi

Thu May 10, 2012 5:57 am

3) thanx, i remember now MODULES

2)

now vlc is running, when starting network stream udp://@IP:5000, sound and video starting, but in vlc view error messages:

libdvbpsi error(PSI decoder): TS discotinuity

Pulseaudio server connection failure

no available XVideo adaptor

no matching GLX frame buffer configuration

any ideas for solving this

1) please

someone use arch on raspPi, which browser is working and how to install

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Re: ArchlinuxARM on Raspberry Pi

Thu May 10, 2012 6:35 am

update pacman -Syyu, new kernel 13+, new firmware

After change to 192/64 arch and reboot, rpi is not booting!

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