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DavidS
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Is Pupppy still around the RPi?

Fri Sep 27, 2013 7:13 pm

While for most things I use RISC OS, I do also use Linux on other computers (in all cases veriants of Puppy anymore), and I was hoping to eventually get a good version of Puppy on the RPi, though it seems that this has not been updated in almost a full year while other Puppy verients, as well as there PUPs continue to recieve attention.

With all of the talk about Linux all over the RPi stuff I would realy love to use a Puppy Linux. I have not yet tried any of the other Linux distros for the RPi as they all seem to be based on the more bloated distros.

In short I want a good stable Puppy Linux to hack on my RPi :)

Unfortunately it seems that there are still some significant bugs with both verients of Puppy for the RPi at this time. It also apears that it has not been touched in a year.

So my question is:
Is there still any development on Puppy Linux for the RPi?
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Re: Is Pupppy still around the RPi?

Sat Sep 28, 2013 2:34 am

Raspbian has a 30MB memory footprint,
http://elinux.org/RPi_Distributions
SliTaz claims 10MB but also seems abandoned.
Maybe just build yourself a custom kernel for Raspbian.
2160p + USB3 + Wayland: https://hardkernel.com

FAQ : https://raspberrypi.stackexchange.com

Unanswered: https://www.raspberrypi.org/forums/search.php?search_id=unanswered

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Re: Is Pupppy still around the RPi?

Sat Sep 28, 2013 4:08 am

And it is possible to get Puppy in under 12MB RAM and 10 tasks with xorg, JWM, ROX Desktop, DHCP, BASH, and a background picture :) . The only other memory consumed is for what ever applications you are running. That on a system that has all of the dynamic libraries that you need, has FireFox installed (I am sure we do not want FireFox on RPi, now that I attempted to view the RPi page in IceWeasel). The difference is it only has running what it needs at the time. This is also a big part of why I wanted to see Puppy as it is so simple to strip it down to a usable system.
See:
http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=40477

To reach the same level of functionality with the default configuration in Raspbian-Weasy takes approximately 90MB of RAM, and provides 80 loaded tasks, an 8 fold increase, and some "Light Weight" Distros are even worse. At least it appears that Raspbian is not going to be to difficult to trim down.

After a quick look it appears to be one of the few that follows the rules, so it should mostly be a matter of editing scripts to get it down to usable. Oh well.
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Re: Is Pupppy still around the RPi?

Sat Sep 28, 2013 4:11 am

Note this is my first day ever running Raspbian, Previously I had only used RISC OS, and some bare metal stuff on the RPi.
The Raspberry Pi is an ARM computer, that runs many Operating Systems, including Linux, RISC OS, BSD, Pi64, CP/M as well as many more.
Soon to add AROS to the list of operating systems.

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Re: Is Pupppy still around the RPi?

Sat Sep 28, 2013 5:21 am

Have you looked at Tiny Core Linux ?

piCore the base CLI system.

piCore-X is piCore with preinstalled GUI

http://distro.ibiblio.org/tinycorelinux/ports.html

http://forum.tinycorelinux.net/index.php?board=57.0
Searching is easy, most questions have been asked before !

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Re: Is Pupppy still around the RPi?

Wed Nov 06, 2013 11:26 pm

The short answer to the original poster is, no. The main Puppy developer, BarryK, has been trying to retire for years now. Now he seems to really have done it & Puppy is in maintenance mode as he likes to call it. So its now up to the Puppy Linux community for further development which is inconsistent & no one to the same level as he has unfortunately.

You could try fixing some things (potentially hard) & rolling out a new Puppy release (not that hard) with those bug fixes like many others have in the past or changing another distro to do things more like Puppy does. If you or others do either please share though since I've been using Puppy since 2004 & its a great fit for the most part.

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