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Puppy Progress ?

Posted: Tue Jul 17, 2012 9:00 pm
by Montala
Back in late May we were advised as follows:
lobster wrote:DIY versions will start to mature in June 2012
eg. Puppi Arch

The first alpha releases will be available July/August 2012

Mark (Antiloquax) is expecting his real Rpi hardware any day now and has a Qemu Puppi Arch that can be transitioned . . .

For Christmas/Holidays/Dec 2012 we will have had sufficient time to code, woof2 build, test in the kennels. shrink and optimise programs.

When Puppy comes to the party, it will turn the Raspberry Pi into a viable computer. Debian and Arch have created a great bootstrapping environment.

Puppy will offer support and simple documentation - easy enough for kids, penguin noobs, silver surfers, programming hackers from other dimensions and those on a fast track to their own projects.

We have no time requirement. The process will be ongoing.
Learn by doing. We have a minimalist core and a commitment to efficiency.

We are the DorG
Resistence is Futile

PS. We will be cuter, more fun and strangely addictive . . .
Now that hopefully all of the Puppy 'team' are proud RasPi owners and the alpha 3 release is looking really good, I am hoping that we won't have to wait until the end of the year for a more mature version to evolve.

In the meantime, are you able to give us any encouraging news about any forthcoming releases, such as one based on 'Wheezy' for example, as I am sure I saw mentioned in one of the 'official' Puppy forums... where the date of 18th July (i.e. tomorrow) comes to mind for some reason? :)

Re: Puppy Progress ?

Posted: Thu Jul 19, 2012 9:29 am
by darkcity
Many people still haven't got a RPi yet, myself included. My order looks likely to be another 5 weeks away.

Therefore, I doubt there is the volume of testers required to produce a 'mature' version.

Puppy works mainly by Barry developing Puppy along with Woof (a tool for creating custom Puppy versions). Then the community will make lots of their own customisations and versions. Barry may allow a team of volunteers to make an 'official' community version. Currently on x86 the official community version is Slacko, and Barry's latest versions are Wary (old hardware) and Racy (new hardware).

There is no Puppy 'foundation' or way to fund the project (other than making individual donations to Barry and other devs).
how the project is run- ... tement.htm

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For news on Woof and Puppy see-

For news on community releases see-

Re: Puppy Progress ?

Posted: Thu Jul 19, 2012 10:41 am
by darkcity
news just -

Woof build Puppy + Debian Wheezy = Puppi 'cockroach'


Re: Puppy Progress ?

Posted: Thu Jul 19, 2012 11:23 am
by Montala
Thanks for your comments 'darkcity'

Although I am relatively new to the world of Linux, I am beginning to appreciate how things work around here, and realise that is it usually down to the work put in on a voluntary basis by often just one or two dedicated individuals that these 'projects' get as far as they do.

A good case in point here is Raspbian, which thanks to Mike Thompson and Peter Green has quickly become an 'official', and much respected, RasPi image.

I am sure I am not alone on hoping that Puppy will soon reach a similar level, and understand that Mark, Barry and 'Lobster' are currently working hard on producing RasPi 'versions' of Puppy, so in that respect I had assumed that the development of Puppy would progress, much in the same way (although perhaps not quite as quickly) as it has done for Raspbian... or am I missing something here?

Re: Puppy Progress ?

Posted: Thu Jul 19, 2012 2:54 pm
by darkcity
You can be assured that Puppy will continue to be enthusiastically developed. How quickly and in what direction depends on what people find it useful for.

Each Linux distribution has its strengths and weaknesses. From a personal point of view, Puppy was the first flavour of Linux that I found A) quick enough to install and use, B) easy enough for me to understand. I had given up on computer tinkering after Acorn packed up.

When people write open source software that code belongs to the commons. The problem of lack of funding says a lot about the wider economic system.


Here's some interesting info about the Linux kernel, perhaps “. . . one of the largest and most successful open source projects that has ever come about.”

75% – The share of all kernel development that is done by developers who are being paid for their work.

Image ... t-numbers/

Re: Puppy Progress ?

Posted: Thu Jul 19, 2012 3:00 pm
by pygmy_giant
I'm happy to wait - lots of other things to play with while its being perfected...