It's not dead - it's just resting...LucidEye wrote:It's not just outdated... it was never finished... and never will be... and will no longer have any support from the developers... why keep it posted here as a viable OS when it's not? It's full of bugs, even it's first-boot configuration app doesn't work properly... and it doesn't have many software packages available for it. Doesn't make any sense to keep it here... it should be removed... or at the very least a warning about it's lack of support and functionality should be posted with the download link so that people don't end up wasting a LOT of time installing it and trying to get it to work... which it never will. I'm just trying to save a lot of people all of the grief I just went through over the past several days trying to get this OS working only to find out it will never work.
Not dead, just sick as a parrot?Pidora
Ansible SOP (oatley) (done)
Pidora sign mash rsync SOP (oatley) (done)
Sigul SOP (oatley)
Koji-follow SOP (fossjon) (done?)
Document chroot process SOP (v6 specific package changes) from blog (fossjon)
Pidora repo sym link setup SOP (oatley)
Pidora repo sym link double space rsync (oatley)
In process (oatley)
Need to schedule SOP tests (Aug/Sep)
Build f19 + f18 updates is being built (agreene)
Automate the vc-firmware packages (agreene)
Release status and feedback--
Blog posts for pidora x2 each week
Choose a day and start blogging together
Schedule publishing to start Monday 2013-07-22 (ctyler)
/etc/hostname file conflict? overriding sysconfig value? (agreene) (Possible solutions) (Ticket ###)
modify firstboot to write hostname file
delete file in post of kickstart
Legality of a pidora miniDLNA package? where can we include it?
agreene (Ticket ###)
Camera support testing (agreene) (Ticket ###)
Building F18-updates, F19, Rawhide:
f19 is building (agreene)
agreene is buildmaster
qt-webkit, gstreamer-bad-free, perl-crypt-ssl, and more! (done)
start building by 2013-06-28
F19 Timeframe - Need to look at package set issues
Estimate by 2013-08-06 (agreene)
A pidora-team group email address so chris doesn't get all the complaints (place on pidora.ca) (ctyler -> fossjon 2013-07-17)
Safe guarded sign/mash/rsync script for better automation and less manual user error (oatley)
Needs testing of email (2013-07-19)
A main site to post updates or feedback or announcements? (pidora.ca site && #pidora channel && blog)
pidora irc not a OP can't change topic (get Dan to set auto-op on OSTEP team members)
Post this info to forums
Start a pidora mailing list? (<--- hold for now)
Need 2 articles per person by EOW
Ask the community forums about what people might want to do?
How to set a static ip networkmanager (fossjon) (done)
How to install and use scratch
How to make a basic python scrypt
Use yumex for a graphical install
Turn the raspberry pi into a media centre?
Setup some servers, httpd, sshd, etc
Configure firewall and selinux
Changing XFCE theme or layout
Firstboot module changes -- jon
Need to look at F19+ firstboot and i18n code in there (agreene 2013-08-06)
ex usage: _("This is some text")
check modules from upstream, add to our modules
Needs folder reorg (oatley 2013-07-19)
move to raspbianLucidEye wrote:I AM trying to build a project... and it's on hold because I can't find a freakin stable OS to build it on.... jeez... OK... going to explain this one more time...
I'm a photographer.. I bought the R-Pi so I could do camera control, motion control, and time lapse.
I can't even get one of these OSs to simply run the gphoto2 camera control software so I can use my DSLR in tethered mode.
Raspbian seems to do other things I need it to do like connect to a RTC module, connect via WiFi with VNC clients for remote control, and runs my stepper motors... however, it can't run the gphoto2 software that is critical for the camera operation... it's completely flaky and unreliable and just hangs 5 out of 6 tries... not feasible for building a stable, in-the-field unit.
Pidora seems to run the gphoto2 software just fine, but that's all it can do.. it can't do any of the other things I need it to do like the RTC, VNC, NTP, or various other basic stuff because it was abandoned long before all of it's bugs were fixed... like most Fedora distros.
And now I can't seem to get Arch to even install on an SD card... it's starting to look like this whole R-Pi thing is just a bunch of bs.. nothing really works for it... unless you are a programmer and have nothing but free time on your hands to rewrite or customize a bunch of code... I am not a programmer, and I have a day job so I can't just sit around all day with my fingers in my Pi.
I assume you're making a living with your camera? If so, invest in professional equipment. Yes it's expensive, but when something goes belly up, you have someone to blame (and claim compensation from). It's no fun tinkering electronics on a tin of beans, when all you want is create art while indulging in a pizzaLucidEye wrote:I'm a photographer.. [....] not feasible for building a stable, in-the-field unit.
I don't think that airbrushing history will help anyone - it certainly won't help all of those who are yet to experience the same woes. There is already an unwritten rule about not criticising the functionality of anything open-source - "if you don't like it then fix it yourself", etc. This is fine as far as it goes, but:Oakham wrote:I suggested Raspbian and fix gphoto2, no response (in other thread)
I do agree that Fedora has never been usable for a newbie
I suggested Arch, but it is no go as it does not come with a DE, though gphoto and vlc are both in the repositories.
The bottom line is whatever monetary back-up any distro receives it down to community to create, but the OP feels that volunteers should fix all his issues free of charge and yesterday.
I personally feel that the rant in this and the other post should be yanked totally as it does not one iota make the Pi Community look good, but then I would also yank any posts to do with must have features.
Sorry Oakham, but which points? That "rants" (which whilst sometimes tiresome are usually just streams of conciousness made in the heat of the moment and may occasionally be valuable) should be routinely airbrushed out because they might affect the image of Planet Pi, or that it's ok for "free" software (supplied by an organisation that receives a grant in order to promote "free" software and should know better) to suck?Oakham wrote:gritz you appear to have missed my points and inserted your assumptions..............
ednl wrote:Re: gphoto2, it seems like newer or non-Canon/Nikon cameras aren't widely supported; is that correct? Your story peeked my interest but I couldn't find anything for my old Olympus E520.
I believe you would need to discuss with a Moderator in a PM, try AbishurLucidEye wrote:Oakham... is there any way to somehow merge the threads? My bad for splitting this into 2 threads
I would like to post my progress and other info I've learned.
Curiously, just last night, my Pi running Pidora crashed and burned after about 2 months of uptime - for no apparent reason. The SD card, with Pidora installed via NOOBS, was corrupted and could not be rebooted (NOOBS seemed OK, but Pidora not so). When I switched back to my previous Raspbian distro, everything was fine - with exactly the same hardware config (power supply, WiFi, etc) - so it is clearly software not hardware.AndrewS wrote:Maybe Pidora isn't as dead as we thought... after 2 months there's actually been an update on one of my bug reports!
Still not that promising, but better than nothing