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Re: Official Raspberry Pi keyboard

Sat Mar 23, 2019 7:32 pm

shiekh wrote:
Wed Mar 13, 2019 11:59 am
Finally

https://thepihut.com/products/official- ... 824e3dc76f

I await the black/grey US version

This new version looks different from the one being discussed above.
Also patiently waiting for the English US version. I'm fine with the white red version though. :D

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Re: Official Raspberry Pi keyboard

Sat Mar 30, 2019 8:59 pm

I think the next version of the official Raspberry Pi keyboard should be constructed so that modifications would be easier. E.g. the circuit boards should have lots of solder pads or possibility to solder on pins for internal USB etc. and the box, prepared cutouts for the connectors.

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Re: Official Raspberry Pi keyboard

Sat Apr 06, 2019 12:32 am

I have now seen the two versions (red and grey), but like neither.

What became of the original official keyboard as discussed in this thread?

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Re: Official Raspberry Pi keyboard

Fri Apr 12, 2019 2:50 pm

Can this keyboard and mouse be used with passive USB to PS/2 adapters in order to use them with computers that only have PS/2 ports?

Example of passive adapter, USB to PS/2:
StarTech GC46FM Female USB Mouse to Male PS/2 Replacement Adapter, Green

Example of computer with only PS/2 port and no host USB:
Colour Maximite
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Re: Official Raspberry Pi keyboard

Fri Apr 12, 2019 3:18 pm

shiekh wrote:
Sat Apr 06, 2019 12:32 am
I have now seen the two versions (red and grey), but like neither.

What became of the original official keyboard as discussed in this thread?
The official keybaoad is now the latest one. That earlier one is no longer manufactured. The new one is better, with detachable USB lead, and also includes a hub, so you get three USB ports on the back. Great for the Zero.
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Re: Official Raspberry Pi keyboard

Fri Apr 12, 2019 3:22 pm

mob-i-l wrote:
Fri Apr 12, 2019 2:50 pm
Can this keyboard and mouse be used with passive USB to PS/2 adapters in order to use them with computers that only have PS/2 ports?

Example of passive adapter, USB to PS/2:
StarTech GC46FM Female USB Mouse to Male PS/2 Replacement Adapter, Green

Example of computer with only PS/2 port and no host USB:
Colour Maximite
We have never tried this, and don't actually have any PS/2 equipped PC's in the office to try it! However, we see no reason why it should not work, we are USB compliant.

ps. Just seen one of the new black/grey keyboards in the flesh - they look fantastic.
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Re: Official Raspberry Pi keyboard

Fri Apr 12, 2019 3:31 pm

jamesh wrote:
Fri Apr 12, 2019 3:22 pm
However, we see no reason why it should not work
You have a USB hub chip that speaks PS/2 ???
we are USB compliant.
The nature of passive adapters is that they do not convert anything.
So the PS/2 signal provided to the USB connector will not be USB compliant.
There are certainly keyboards and mice on the market that can understand both signals, but I do not see how that can ever work with keyboards that have integrated hub such as yours.
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Re: Official Raspberry Pi keyboard

Fri Apr 12, 2019 4:08 pm

Will there be an English US version?

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Re: Official Raspberry Pi keyboard

Fri Apr 12, 2019 4:19 pm

France going for a new keyboard layout ...
https://gizmodo.com/france-is-getting-a ... 1833806064

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Re: Official Raspberry Pi keyboard

Fri Apr 12, 2019 4:20 pm

alphanumeric wrote:
Fri Apr 12, 2019 4:08 pm
Will there be an English US version?

The Official 2019

https://www.raspberrypi.org/blog/offici ... ard-mouse/
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Re: Official Raspberry Pi keyboard

Fri Apr 12, 2019 6:50 pm

Thats great news thanks for the link. :D

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Re: Official Raspberry Pi keyboard

Fri Apr 12, 2019 7:50 pm

incognitum wrote:
Fri Apr 12, 2019 3:31 pm
jamesh wrote:
Fri Apr 12, 2019 3:22 pm
However, we see no reason why it should not work
You have a USB hub chip that speaks PS/2 ???
we are USB compliant.
The nature of passive adapters is that they do not convert anything.
So the PS/2 signal provided to the USB connector will not be USB compliant.
There are certainly keyboards and mice on the market that can understand both signals, but I do not see how that can ever work with keyboards that have integrated hub such as yours.
Maybe one could disconnect the internal USB-hub so that the cable connects directly to the keyboard. It could be possible to connect a USB mouse to the hub and that it would be connected to the PS/2 as on a Y-splitter cable for old laptops.

Y splitter cable to connect PS/2 mouse and keyboard to a single PS/2 port on a laptop:
https://www.startech.com/uk/Cables/Seri ... ter~KYC1MF

Anyway, if this doesn't work, there is this active adapter:
https://www.startech.com/support/PS22USB
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Re: Official Raspberry Pi keyboard

Mon May 06, 2019 12:09 am

Here's mine.

Worked out of box.
Then, after Raspbian update/upgrade, didn't work.
Unplug/replug keyboard at microUSB connection, worked again.
That's where things stand now.
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Re: Official Raspberry Pi keyboard

Tue Oct 29, 2019 9:47 am

You can type the Insert key by typing Fn+Delete on the official Raspberry Pi Keyboard. I miss these keys: Pause, Super R (Right Windows key), Menu, Enter (on the num pad). Shift+F10 is an alternative to Menu, but doesn't send the Menu scan code. I think there should be combinations with Fn that makes it possible to generate all scan codes on a pc105 keyboard plus multimedia keys.

It would be a wish that the next version of the official Raspberry Pi Keyboard could generate all scan codes for pc105 even if it is the US version (i.e. pc104), because then I think Fn+Z should generate the key left of Z on a pc105 keyboard. Fn+B could be Pause key ─ it cannot be Fn+P because that's already - (minus) on the numeric keypad. Fn by itself doesn't send a scan code. It would also be good if multimedia keys were supported using e.g. Fn+F3 to Fn+F9.
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