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Maximum current drawn from USB (Model B)

Sun Aug 18, 2013 4:00 am

Model B has no polyfuse that limits current that can be drawn from USB port to 140mA. So, what is the new maximum current that can be drawn from the USB port of RPi Model B?

Thank you.

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Re: Maximum current drawn from USB (Model B)

Sun Aug 18, 2013 4:39 am

All the discussions I have seen revolve around the opinion that beyond 140mA you are going to have problems...

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Re: Maximum current drawn from USB (Model B)

Sun Aug 18, 2013 4:45 am

tonyhughes wrote:All the discussions I have seen revolve around the opinion that beyond 140mA you are going to have problems...
But if that is the case, why did the designers of RPi remove the polyfuse in Model B? I thought that was an admission of design mistake.

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Re: Maximum current drawn from USB (Model B)

Sun Aug 18, 2013 5:01 am

Where has that been stated?

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Re: Maximum current drawn from USB (Model B)

Sun Aug 18, 2013 5:09 am

tonyhughes wrote:Where has that been stated?
I read it somewhere in an interview in one of the MagPi magazine issues. Maybe I remembered incorrectly. But the fact remains that the polyfuse was removed from USB.

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Re: Maximum current drawn from USB (Model B)

Sun Aug 18, 2013 6:15 am

Many forum discussions on this subject...you might start with this one. It discusses whether their was a design flaw in adding the polyfuse in the first place.

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Re: Maximum current drawn from USB (Model B)

Sun Aug 18, 2013 10:46 pm

helpme wrote:Model B has no polyfuse that limits current that can be drawn from USB port to 140mA. So, what is the new maximum current that can be drawn from the USB port of RPi Model B?

Thank you.
If the RPi Rev2 model B is powered via the micro USB power connector then all current from the power supply passes though the main polyfuse F3.
F3 has a 750mA 'hold current' rating. If you go above that then the system will be unreliable... USB devices stop working... SD corruption.... RPi reboots etc. Of course currents above the 'trip rating' of about 1A will totally shut the RPi down within a few seconds.

The RPi itself (Model B) uses about 400mA or so. Mouse and keyboard use another 150mA or so. What's leftover is available to the USB ports and GPIO 5V pins.
Unless specified otherwise my response is based on the latest and fully updated RPiOS Buster w/ Desktop OS.

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Re: Maximum current drawn from USB (Model B)

Mon Aug 19, 2013 1:42 am

Is there any good data available on what the draw is for a variety of peripherals?

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Re: Maximum current drawn from USB (Model B)

Mon Aug 19, 2013 9:04 pm

The command "usb-devices" reports, as "MxPwr" what appears to be the maximum current requirement for a given USB device (eg. see http://www.cpmspectrepi.webspace.virgin ... erReq.html) which, as far as I have been able to determine, by monitoring a Pi's current, with or without a device plugged in, a "fairly good guide value".
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