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Re: Sub-£100 Kitchen PC?

Tue Mar 13, 2012 11:42 am

I'd love to use the RPi to build a cheap kitchen PC for music, recipe browsing and maybe some TV if I don't need to concentrate on what I'm cooking!

Lots of kitchen PCs use a touchscreen, but I can't afford that so I was thinking of using a PS3 controller or maybe the Move Navigation Controller to provide mouse functionality and a couple of shortcut buttons. I can use the onscreen keyboard (or buy a mini bluetooth one later if I get too fed up).

If I buy those and a cheap screen secondhand, I reckon I could just squeeze it in under £100. What do you think? Have I missed something obvious?

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Re: Sub-£100 Kitchen PC?

Tue Mar 13, 2012 12:15 pm

The most important thing to take into account is that the keyboard and mouse must be waterproof to the extent of being washable.

When you are half-way through making pastry and you want to turn the page, something is going to get messy.

http://www.firebox.com/product.....f-Keyboard

The mouse is more difficult. Mice are easy to find, but a trackball or joystick would be better, and those are difficult to find at a decent price.

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Re: Sub-£100 Kitchen PC?

Thu Mar 15, 2012 12:57 am

Washable keyboards?!? Why? Used keyboards are cheap like borscht around here. I can pick up a used one at the second hand store (the pricier option) for $5 Canadian. I've been to garage sales (or car boot sales, as they say in the UK) where you could get five for $10! USB Mice, for some reason, seem to be harder to come by, I'm guessing because they break/get gummed up easier.

I have a Mac Mini in my kitchen for exactly the purpose the OP stated. (I, sadly, spend substantially more on it than 100 pounds). I've only trashed one Apple keyboard in 5 years. Even the crap-o-rific, not-so-Mighty Mouse has stood up, and that's with a 7 year old around who likes to eat breakfast and watch Youtube at the the same time.

A touch screen would be a pain, I think. My 13" wall mounted LCD gets filthy enough without it really getting touched much. I couldn't imagine using a $600 iPad for this reason.

The biggest issue I had with a kitchen counter computer is cable management. I've stashed the Mini in a lower cabinet, then installed a wire grommet, designed for an office desk, in the countertop. I have a powered USB hub and an ethernet switch sitting on the countertop. Along with the monitor cables, it all adds up to a bit of a rat's nest.

If you do use the RPi as a kitchen computer, and you have family, plan on getting a second one. My wife and child try and hijack it all the time while I'm trying to listen to music when I'm cooking!

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Re: Sub-£100 Kitchen PC?

Thu Mar 15, 2012 1:15 am

You can have a mini wireless keyboard with integrated touchpad for a decent price on eBay: http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/PC-O.....295wt_1396

The seller claims that it is Linux tested.

I have tested it myself, but I'm planning to buy one for my RPi media center.

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Re: Sub-£100 Kitchen PC?

Thu Mar 15, 2012 1:49 am

Raspberry Pi 21.60 + 4.95 P&P = 26.55 GBP

Washable Mouse – 3.99 GBP

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Belk.....0638098810

Washable Keyboard – 4.47 GBP

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/USB-.....0725420580

19" DVI Monitor – 54.95 GBP

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/HANN.....0800850209

19" HDMI Monitor - 54.99 GBP

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Hann.....0797236151

Total  90.00 GBP

That leaves you with 10.00 GBP for power supply, DVI cable and Network Cable.

Very do-able!

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Re: Sub-£100 Kitchen PC?

Thu Mar 15, 2012 8:36 am

Not sure about other islands outside of the big American one, but, we have a really great resource for recycling older-but-still-usable stuff at http://www.Freecycle.com.  You can search for local Freecycle web sites and e-mail lists where you can sign up and receive notifications of things people no longer need and want to give away, or post requests for particular things you need.

It's all free and it keeps things out of the landfills for as long as possible, especially here in SillyCon Valley, where the lifespan of tech possessions is shorter than the half-life of Copernicium 285 (5*10^-19 seconds ).  I've acquired tons of historically-interesting computing artifacts this way to round out my personal collection, and almost all of them are still functional!

Note that you can still use PS/2 keyboards and mice with USB-equipped computers via a ~$1.00 adapter that has one or two PS/2 sockets on one end and a USB A plug on the other.
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Re: Sub-£100 Kitchen PC?

Thu Mar 15, 2012 8:42 am

Why not just buy a second hand first gen android tablet? A 7 inch galaxy tab can be had for around that price. 1Ghz CPU and 512Mb RAM 16Gb storage...

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Re: Sub-£100 Kitchen PC?

Thu Mar 15, 2012 10:02 am

Jim Manley said:


Not sure about other islands outside of the big American one, but, we have a really great resource for recycling older-but-still-usable stuff at http://www.Freecycle.com.  You can search for local Freecycle web sites and e-mail lists where you can sign up and receive notifications of things people no longer need and want to give away, or post requests for particular things you need.


We have it in the UK too - there is also a breakaway group called https://www.ilovefreegle.org/

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Re: Sub-£100 Kitchen PC?

Thu Mar 15, 2012 1:35 pm

Just my 2-pence...someone drafted an Instructable on a similar project, and they did use a touch screen. Maybe you can get some inspiration from it...

http://www.instructables.com/i.....itchen-PC/

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