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Re: Star trek-style 'tricoder' invention using an r-pi

Fri Jan 13, 2012 7:26 pm

riFFraFF said:


$10M? Is that a medical tricorder or a science tricorder?



Supposed to be a medical one.  Seriously.  The $10 mil prize is like the Space X-Prizes and the Automotive ones- they're to encourage independent development in those areas to vastly jump-start things.  So far, we've gotten quite a few major jumps in things in the space science field (though they're non-obvious to those not following...) by way of these competitions.  The automotive stuff promises some real, possible major leaps of efficiency and actual GREEN vehicles instead of the mostly "green" ones we're seeing right now.

I can only expect a similar jump in sensor and similar tech over this one.

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Re: Star trek-style 'tricoder' invention using an r-pi

Fri Jan 13, 2012 7:28 pm

Warringer said:


Getting a drop of blood should not be that hard, when I take a look at what diabetics do to get their blood sugar levels. Nick the skin, massage to get a drop of blood and then put it on a sensor.

While the hardware and the software would not be that much of a problem, getting a sensor for more then just blood sugar levels out of the blood is a challenge.

For a look into the body, ultrasound sounds like a good choice. You can take the heartbeat without much problems and take a look around for inner injuries.


The prize is looking for even less invasive measures than the diabetic sampling (I can attest to it still being annoying, even if it's vastly improved over the last 5 or so years...)  While I doubt we're going to get away from that for now, there might be alternatives for the blood sugar thing.  Something you might be able to get a rough-cut with a non-invasive sensor set.  That's the sort of thinking they're aiming for with all of this.

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Re: Star trek-style 'tricoder' invention using an r-pi

Fri Jan 13, 2012 7:41 pm

In regards to non-invasive glucose monitoring here's a history of the same:

http://www.mendosa.com/noninva.....lucose.pdf


It should be noted that nobody seems to have obtained the goal for this yet...yet.  One device is in the investigational stages : http://www.orsense.com/Glucose

In no way should any of these remarks deter any of us in this thread.  If you succeed...let's just say the X-Prize here would almost be chump-change to what it'd be worth.

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Re: Star trek-style 'tricoder' invention using an r-pi

Fri Jan 13, 2012 7:42 pm

I'm wondering if a finely tunable set of LEDs and sensors could read specific absorption lines on either the disease or it's waste products? Scan the fingers or earlobes?

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Re: Star trek-style 'tricoder' invention using an r-pi

Fri Jan 13, 2012 7:50 pm

veronicathecow said:


I'm wondering if a finely tunable set of LEDs and sensors could read specific absorption lines on either the disease or it's waste products? Scan the fingers or earlobes?



Just found out about another device in the investigational stages:

http://www.lightouchmedical.co.....nitor.html

Both technologies do differing things with LEDs, arriving at a similar result.  Both bunches have patent coverage on the stuff, so you're going to have issues unless you partner with them (Now, if you've got other answers for the "tricorder" sensors for pulse, etc. you might just get them to get on board with someone for the purposes of a win on the Prize...)

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Re: Star trek-style 'tricoder' invention using an r-pi

Sun Jan 15, 2012 1:55 am

http://singularityhub.com/2012.....tire-body/

we have competition... or co-operation, your choice.
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Re: Star trek-style 'tricoder' invention using an r-pi

Tue Jan 17, 2012 1:28 am

tzj said:


http://singularityhub.com/2012.....tire-body/

we have competition... or co-operation, your choice.



Could be either at this stage.

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Re: Star trek-style 'tricoder' invention using an r-pi

Sat Jan 21, 2012 11:08 pm

http://debian-med.alioth.debia.....org/tasks/

Looks interesting for those thinking of getting involved in this.  Though sensors seem to be an issue that won"t be solved cheaply or easily, it at least looks like software is on its way.

Looking through the packages, and wow, really cool. There are definitely packages in there which would be useful:

http://sourceforge.net/apps/me.....=Main_Page

This software for processing medical images might be useful if you do include some kind of scanner.  Not sure if the pi is going to have the processing power to run all the needed software (especially not simultaneously) for a quick result.  Maybe a Pi with sensor board connected wirelessly to a cluster (bramble).
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Re: Star trek-style 'tricoder' invention using an r-pi

Sun Jan 22, 2012 12:24 am

This I like, however it would seem like a prize that will not be won so soon taking in to account that even the most advanced MRI machines are the size of a fridge freezer.

Now if we start with the basics and at least create the scanning device to detect various colours of the spectrum, then you could program the Pi to calculate the mortality rate of anyone wearing a red shirt.

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Re: Star trek-style 'tricoder' invention using an r-pi

Sun Jan 22, 2012 11:57 am

They already have tiny devices that scan your fingernail and calculate oxygen levels in the blood- called an oximeter (I think). I used one when a hospital demo group visited our school. Basically it just clips over your finger and has a tiny monitor with BPM and O2- pretty awesome!

Perhaps you could have something similar than scans your face, reads skin tones, iris dilation, stuff like that, to calculate vitals...?
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Re: Star trek-style 'tricoder' invention using an r-pi

Sun Jan 22, 2012 12:19 pm

Did they specify which diseases need to be diagnosed? I had a look at the quallcom site and couldnt find a list.

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Re: Star trek-style 'tricoder' invention using an r-pi

Mon Mar 04, 2013 1:12 am

*bump*

I really want to get this thread going again, see what progress has been made in the past year.
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Re: Star trek-style 'tricoder' invention using an r-pi

Wed Mar 13, 2013 5:16 pm

How's about this?

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-21769537

In summary: used a ball lens to convert a smartphone (iphone) into a field microscope to check for intestinal worms. Only a proof of concept at this stage, but a potentially interesting medical application for similar small devices. There's a link to the paper in the article.

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Re: Star trek-style 'tricoder' invention using an r-pi

Wed Mar 13, 2013 6:40 pm

That's a good spot, would be great if it works in the Pi's camera module.
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