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Re: Puppy Linux

Sun Oct 30, 2011 1:00 am

Puppy Linux creator Barry Kauler has started work on toolchains in preparation for the move to ARM, and here are some of his notes that the PI community should know:
I am curious, decided to try a test build for an ARM CPU. Using T2, as that is what I know best, and it has an option for the ARM1176JZF-S CPU, which is the one used in the RaspberryPi alpha boards.

T2 does not have any configuration settings specific to the RaspberryPi board -- it would be very much in the interests of the RasPi people to send a board to Rene, the chief guy at T2.

I got the latest T2 from SVN...

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Re: Puppy Linux

Sun Oct 30, 2011 7:24 am

That's great news. I don't like OS fragmentation, but Puppy Linux really does its thing (which is being a very light and easy to use desktop distro) well.

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Re: Puppy Linux

Mon Oct 31, 2011 1:01 pm

Never been a fan of Puppy, but it's nice to see a proper lightweight ditro on the Rpi (unlike Ubuntu or Debian). I'd like to see TinyCoreLinux on this thing too...

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Re: Puppy Linux

Mon Oct 31, 2011 1:08 pm

Quote from Josh on October 31, 2011, 13:01
Never been a fan of Puppy, but it's nice to see a proper lightweight ditro on the Rpi (unlike Ubuntu or Debian). I'd like to see TinyCoreLinux on this thing too...

Debian can be as lightweight as you make it. I ran it on my Psion 5MX.

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Re: Puppy Linux

Mon Oct 31, 2011 10:39 pm

Thanks, asb. I hope that you appreciate what we are trying to do here which is to gather ideas about how Puppy Linux can be made to work in The RaspberryPi. I've seen the Armel packages of Debian, but in terms of making a lightweight build, do you have any particular idea, say, a package list? TIA.

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Re: Puppy Linux

Mon Oct 31, 2011 10:53 pm

Quote from raffy on October 31, 2011, 22:39
Thanks, asb. I hope that you appreciate what we are trying to do here which is to gather ideas about how Puppy Linux can be made to work in The RaspberryPi. I've seen the Armel packages of Debian, but in terms of making a lightweight build, do you have any particular idea, say, a package list? TIA.

Indeed. I didn't mean to derail the thread, just to point out that Debian can be a good base. I'm not massively familiar with the Puppy ecosystem, but it sounds like the real trick is the expertise in selecting packages, and configuring everything to be as minimal as possible. 'Guy Dog' looks rather neat http://www.murga-linux.com/pup.....hp?t=72576.

I'm afraid I don't know much about building a minimal distro other than using debootstrap to create a minimal base and adding stuff as you need it, though I expect Puppy would strip docs, unneeded locales etc.

One thing I'd really love an answer to is how much you can gain for desktop usage by going from Debian armel (armv4+, softfp) packages to custom compiled packages for the Raspberry Pi arm1176 (i.e. armv6 and floating point unit). I haven't had a chance to do a proper investigation of this yet.

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Re: Puppy Linux

Mon Oct 31, 2011 10:57 pm

Quote from asb on October 31, 2011, 13:08
Quote from Josh on October 31, 2011, 13:01
Never been a fan of Puppy, but it's nice to see a proper lightweight ditro on the Rpi (unlike Ubuntu or Debian). I'd like to see TinyCoreLinux on this thing too...

Debian can be as lightweight as you make it. I ran it on my Psion 5MX.

True. But I prefer a system that would run a lightning fast speeds on lower spec devices without shaving off the excess fat.

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Re: Puppy Linux

Tue Nov 01, 2011 7:09 am

Josh, you posted a bit after asb, who has moved on to another point. Am glad that you are a fan of Puppy's speed tricks. :)

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Re: Puppy Linux

Tue Nov 01, 2011 7:56 am

Puppy was designed to run from an SD card (just like the Rpi) . . . perhaps ahead of its time. Now we are going back to our roots.
http://puppylinux.org/wikka/PARM
Puppy has always used a multitude of techniques to keep small and efficient. These techniques will be stretched to the maximum to maintain Puppy's speed and specialised, optimised programs.

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Re: Puppy Linux

Tue Nov 01, 2011 8:44 am

I just love what you did with the logo.

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Re: Puppy Linux

Sun May 06, 2012 1:55 pm

Chief Developer Barry is ready to build for the ARM with an updated Woof (build script):


Good news, as xz compression is being used, the compressed image file is currently only 88MB. That is my Ubuntu Lucid Lynx based build, with all of the usual applications, including SeaMonkey.


He was initially scheduled for March 30 (delivery of the RasPi), but no luck up to now.

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