SodaCoder
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Easy OS installer - closed case

Fri May 24, 2019 3:46 pm

Hello!

I am working on an easier way to install oses on your raspberry pi.

I know you are thinking "What about noobs? or PINN? or berryboot?"

This is different.

My idea is that i have the image as a zip file so no more flashing images - just unzipping. If you have a RPI with usb --> SD adaptor you could use it to make another SD card with image!

Thank you!

Tell me if this is a good idea or not. I am not new to RPI - just the forum. :D :D :D :D
Not anymore,

Please just use noobs or PINN or berryboot - they are really easy
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Re: Easy OS installer

Fri May 24, 2019 3:51 pm

Welcome.

Baffled :oops:

The images are ‘zip’ files. Flash to me means write an image to the SD card or USB drive.

I use Etcher and never touch zip etc. as it handles that internally.

If I am restoring a backup I either copy at file level or use Etcher to flash the image to the card again.
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Re: Easy OS installer

Fri May 24, 2019 4:50 pm

How do you plan to unzip the image on to the two (minimum) filesystems?

How will you unzip into the ext4 filesystem which is not recognised by Windows?

Personally I find unzip and dd are adequate. As I use Linux I have a simple script that takes the image file, unzips it onto the card using dd, does the filesystem expansion thing as part of the install, disables the default file system expansion script, sets up a load of default options that I prefer, sets the hostname and installs ssh keys. After that I just stick the card in a Pi, power on and log in using ssh. My DHCP server, dnsmasq on a Pi 2B, is set up with a range of fixed addresses for use of "raspi1" to "raspi20" and the default "raspberrypi" = 192.168.42.42 for test systems.
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Re: Easy OS installer

Fri May 24, 2019 4:57 pm

How does this provide anything that isn't already available in NOOBS or the forked NOOBS - PINN?

BTW, you can't boot a fully zipped OS, it's not possible.
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Re: Easy OS installer

Fri May 24, 2019 5:30 pm

Maybe the idea is a squashfs rootfs with overlays so that it can all live on a single partition? The post is a little sparse on details, but I don't think it's impossible.

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Re: Easy OS installer

Fri May 24, 2019 6:50 pm

The impression I get is the intent is to unzip some "raspbian.zip" to a FAT formatted card much like NOOBS or PINN but it then rearranges everything when booted so it ends up as if one had burned "raspbian.iso" via Etcher / Win32Imager, but details are thin on the ground.

It might be possible upon booting to shrink the FAT, move that to the end of the card, fill up to there with an ext4 partition, install to that, and finally extend the ext4 over the FAT. Or something like that.

But it seems a lot of effort to go to with no great gain when Etcher does it all, and the biggest issue with not using Etcher is having to unzip the download and needing the right unzipper which can deal with its size.

As a proof of concept, or to prove it can be done, it sounds great, pretty neat in technical terms. But I'm not sure how useful it would be though if those .zips don't come from the Foundation site and one can't be sure what one's getting.

And I may be imagining more than what's actually being proposed.

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Re: Easy OS installer

Sat May 25, 2019 4:35 am

:o is current method of flashing OS via Etcher not the easiest to date......... .... ... .?
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Re: Easy OS installer

Sat May 25, 2019 9:06 am

It seems this is not the best method (from all of your reply's)

I think i will stick with flashing it.

I am not good with knowledge on pi :oops: :oops: :oops:

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Re: Easy OS installer

Sat May 25, 2019 1:21 pm

LTolledo wrote:
Sat May 25, 2019 4:35 am
:o is current method of flashing OS via Etcher not the easiest to date......... .... ... .?
The LibreELEC installer is one step easier as it creates the bootable image on the SD while downloading.
Unless specified otherwise my response is based on the latest and fully updated Raspbian Stretch w/ Desktop OS.

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Re: Easy OS installer

Sat May 25, 2019 1:27 pm

SodaCoder wrote:
Sat May 25, 2019 9:06 am
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I am not good with knowledge on pi :oops: :oops: :oops:
That’s the great thing about this site - it matters not your skill level just a willingness to learn :)
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