nikoawesome
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compatible 433Mhz USB transceivers?

Sun Oct 20, 2013 6:36 pm

I've spent the last two weeks trying to get my project off the ground but haven't got very far.. just more and more frustrated.

After reading numerous posts (literally ALL posts on the forum tagged 433, rf). I went ahead and brought a cheap receiver and transmitter from eBay in hopes I would hook these up to my Raspberry Pi and get cracking at trying to create my Star Trek themed home automation :P.

I brought these in particular http://www.ebay.com/itm/1pcs-RF-transmi ... 564e8e0e83 , When they arrived I tried putting it all together, there is little guidance on how to do this for newbies like me. A few articles on Google and The MagPi.but nothing for noobs. I think I ended up breaking the receiver.

So I am now searching for a USB solution for my Raspberry Pi, something I can interact with using the command line and or PHP. I.e. Listen to 433 or "receive" and send commands.

Anyone know if these would work for the Raspberry Pi? Specifically Number 4?

Options..

1. MultiTRX: http://www.skagmo.com/page.php?p=projects/11_mtrx
Most promising solution but it seems like the developer discontinued the product / project. Which is a shame as it would have probably worked nicely!
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2. RFXCOM RFXtrx433: http://www.uk-automation.co.uk/products ... rx433.html
Too expensive and well out of my budget!
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3. TellStick Duo
Can't find it anywhere for sale in the UK, Way to expensive! (Over £100 not incl delivery)
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4. USB-1100PA 433MHz Wireless RF Transceiver Module - White + Black
Affordable but will it work with my Pi? http://dx.com/p/usb-1100pa-433mhz-wirel ... ack-159139
..Found what looks like the same USB dongle but on eBay a little more expensive: http://www.ebay.com/itm/RF-USB-wireless ... 19db6060db

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Will option 4 work my Raspberry Pi ??
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Re: compatible 433Mhz USB transceivers?

Mon Oct 21, 2013 1:23 pm

have a look at my project in my sig i have a parts list of what i have used so far it may help
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nikoawesome
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Re: compatible 433Mhz USB transceivers?

Mon Oct 21, 2013 4:57 pm

Hi,

I have had a look at your project, seems like your using the receiver and transmitter I tried already. I need a better approach -Something I can plugin using USB.

Thanks anyway. I think I'll buy the 433 USB dongle and see if it works.. A bit risky but looks like no one on the forum knows..
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Re: compatible 433Mhz USB transceivers?

Thu Oct 24, 2013 4:39 pm

A lot of people here doing high altitude balloon (HAB) projects use the 433MHz band for telemetry. A popular transmitter and receiver is the Radiometrix NTX2:

http://www.radiometrix.com/our-products ... le-channel

I realise this isn't a simple USB plug and play as you now seem to be looking for, but there is a lot of experience with these on the forum. I use it myself for my HAB. Using this in conjunction with the WiringPI library make life pretty simple. If you head over to HABHUB (find it on google) there is a wealth of info from the guys using this. The built in IRC forum on that site is full of people in the know. Help me out a tonne.

nikoawesome
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Re: compatible 433Mhz USB transceivers?

Sat Oct 26, 2013 5:45 pm

just an update, ive ordered the 433 usb dongle from eBay. Hopefully I can start reading stuff on that frequency. I'll let you guys know if it works.
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trexnl
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Re: compatible 433Mhz USB transceivers?

Sat Oct 26, 2013 6:54 pm

You might have a look at the jeelink from jeelabs.com / http://jeelabs.com/products/jeelink
Also see jeelabs.org with tons of information e.g. http://jeelabs.org/2013/02/14/dijn-07-a ... o-the-rpi/

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Re: compatible 433Mhz USB transceivers?

Sat Oct 26, 2013 9:54 pm

have a look at the products from Ciseco.

http://shop.ciseco.co.uk/rf-module-range/ can support 315, 433, 900 MHz
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Re: compatible 433Mhz USB transceivers?

Sun Oct 27, 2013 11:33 am

in addition there are now 3DR clones available for a pretty good price. Haven't used them so i'm unsure on the quality.
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nikoawesome
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Re: compatible 433Mhz USB transceivers?

Tue Nov 05, 2013 10:37 am

Thanks for all the suggestions, I'm going to test the USB transceiver I purchased and report back here. It was the cheapest of the lot so I don't have any high hopes. :ugeek: :mrgreen:
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Re: compatible 433Mhz USB transceivers?

Tue Nov 05, 2013 6:42 pm

I also think you might not have a lot of success with that one depending on how you intend to use it. It says it uses minimum shift keying as a modulation method. That is fine for its intended application where one of these transceivers talks to another one of the same type. If, however you want to try to drive a lot of the existing home automation gear that uses 433MHz (power sockets, light switches etc.) then most of these tend to use a simple amplitude modulation method (on/off, OOK). So unless the dongle gives access at a lower level to modulation methods you may be stuck with that incompatibility.

Hugh Jarse
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Re: compatible 433Mhz USB transceivers?

Wed Nov 06, 2013 3:57 pm

Ditto here for the Ciseco kit.

I find XRFs are good, and the frequency is configurable.
http://shop.ciseco.co.uk/xrf-wireless-r ... o-pic-etc/
I have just completed a project which uses one of these on the Raspberry Pi and and one on each of three ATMega328s. All chatting together on the same frequency.

www.mhr.me.uk/projects/SCAMP.html

The XRF has a longer distance version (ARF) which is pluggable
http://shop.ciseco.co.uk/arf-high-power ... ansceiver/

wforde
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Re: compatible 433Mhz USB transceivers?

Thu Jan 30, 2014 5:06 pm

Have you tried looking at NinjaBlocks ? http://www.ninjablocks.com/pages/picrust ? $49 and it works pretty well for me.

nikoawesome
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Re: compatible 433Mhz USB transceivers?

Thu Feb 27, 2014 11:17 am

Just an update, I purchased a dvb usb tuner which works as a 433 receiver. I just compiled rtl_433 from source and its working just fine. Only problem now is decoding radio signals from various devices. So far the library only supports...

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Registering protocol[01] Rubicson Temperature Sensor
Registering protocol[02] Prologue Temperature Sensor
Registering protocol[03] Silvercrest Remote Control
Registering protocol[04] ELV EM 1000
Registering protocol[05] ELV WS 2000
Registering protocol[06] Waveman Switch Transmitter
None of which I have. I'm interested in my door bell, motion detectors and Energy monitor.
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nikoawesome
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Re: compatible 433Mhz USB transceivers?

Thu Feb 27, 2014 11:19 am

wforde wrote:Have you tried looking at NinjaBlocks ? http://www.ninjablocks.com/pages/picrust ? $49 and it works pretty well for me.
Might have a go at that but don't think it will help as I am now receiving 433 just fine. Problem now is decoding. Unless Ninjablocks supports a greator range of devices and has built or written more decoders than rtl_433.
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Re: compatible 433Mhz USB transceivers?

Thu Apr 30, 2015 11:05 am

Hi!

I have got a Ninjablocks picrust, and it works perfect with most of the 433Mhz with ASK modulation devices (plugs, remotes, pirs...).

It is a kind of specific arduino board plugged onto the Rasbperry Pi, and communicating using serial thru GPIO.

I have been using it happily for a year, but now I can not make it work with a new Rasberry Pi 2.

Sooo, I am pretty interested in an alternative way to control my 433Mhz devices.

nelson123
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Re: compatible 433Mhz USB transceivers?

Wed Jun 10, 2015 12:05 pm

I have captured a signal, but i can't decode them.
I receive the signal with

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rtl_433 -a -t
Can anybody help me? The sensor is not mine, but I have a other thermometer for the ca. temprature.
Here are my captures. Each package are 3 lines.

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11100001 00100011 00101101 01000000 01000001 11010011 01101010 11001100 00000000	 ca. 11,7C
11100001 00100011 00101100 11000000 01000001 11010011 01101010 00101100 00000000	 ca. 11,7C
11100001 00100011 00101101 01000000 01000001 11010011 01101010 00110000 00000000	 ca. 11,7C
	
11100001 00100011 00101101 01000100 10000010 10110110 11100101 01000000 00000000	 ca. 11,8C
11100001 00100011 00101100 11000100 10000010 10110110 11100100 00010000 00000000	ca. 11,8C
11100001 00100011 00101101 01000100 10000010 10110110 11100100 00101000 00000000	ca. 11,8C
	
11100001 00100011 00101101 01000100 10000011 00110110 11001101 00001000 00000000	ca. 12,1C
11100001 00100011 00101100 11000100 10000011 00110110 11001100 00110000 00000000	ca. 12,1C
11100001 00100011 00101101 01000100 10000011 00110110 11001100 00010000 00000000	ca. 12,1C
	
11100001 00100011 00101101 01000100 10000011 00110110 11001101 00001000 00000000	ca. 12,1C
11100001 00100011 00101100 11000100 10000011 00110110 11001100 00110000 00000000	ca. 12,1C
11100001 00100011 00101101 01000100 10000011 00110110 11001100 00010000 00000000	ca. 12,1C
	
11100001 00100011 00101101 01000100 10000010 01010011 01110101 01000000 00000000	ca. 12,2C
11100001 00100011 00101100 11000100 10000010 01010011 01110100 00111000 00000000	ca. 12,2C
11100001 00100011 00101101 01000100 10000010 01010011 01110101 01000100 00000000	ca. 12,2C
	
11100001 00100011 00101101 00100100 10000010 01010011 01101101 01001000 00000000	12,2
11100001 00100011 00101100 10100100 10000010 01010011 01101100 00110010 00000000	12,2
11100001 00100011 00101101 00100100 10000010 01010011 01101101 01010100 00000000	12,2

silvano
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Re: compatible 433Mhz USB transceivers?

Wed Nov 04, 2015 12:05 pm

Hi all,
I bought one of this usb adapter but I'm still unable to make it working.
I fave this one http://www.ebay.com/itm/RF-USB-wireless ... 19db6060db
and I need it to control some rf 433MHz device, one of it is avidsen rf controlled wall socket.

I'm using this python library https://pypi.python.org/pypi/pyserial

and my code is :

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#!/usr/bin/python

import time
import serial
import sys

def send_serial(send_data):
      send_data = send_data.encode("ascii")
      ser.write(send_data)

try:
   ser = serial.Serial(sys.argv[1],
	9600,
	parity=serial.PARITY_NONE,
	stopbits=serial.STOPBITS_ONE,
        timeout=2,
	bytesize=serial.EIGHTBITS
        )
   if ser.isOpen():
      ser.close()
   ser.open()
   ser.flushInput()
   if (sys.argv[3] == "ON"):
      onoff_ascii = "1"
   elif (sys.argv[3] == "OFF"):
      onoff_ascii = "0"
   else:
     print "ERROR"
     exit()
   if ser.isOpen():
      send_serial(sys.argv[2])
      send_serial("#")
      send_serial(onoff_ascii)
      send_serial("\n")
      ser.readline() #Echo discard
      result = ser.readline()
      result = result.decode("utf-8")
      print result
      ser.close()

except:
   print "ERROR"
   exit()
simply I'm not getting any answer :-( any help on this?
thanks

silvano
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Re: compatible 433Mhz USB transceivers?

Sun Nov 15, 2015 8:30 am

Anyone can help on this?
Thanks

jsmith7342
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Re: compatible 433Mhz USB transceivers?

Mon Jan 16, 2017 5:30 am

How'd it go? Did you find a solution/software for the generic 433MHz USB transceiver? Curious because I got one recently.

claudioita
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Re: compatible 433Mhz USB transceivers?

Mon Jan 23, 2017 7:39 am

Did you manage to get the number 4


Is it working well?


4. USB-1100PA 433MHz Wireless RF Transceiver Module - White + Black

Alex Konshin
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Re: compatible 433Mhz USB transceivers?

Mon Feb 06, 2017 4:37 am

I saw a good article about protocol for many weather sensors: http://www.osengr.org/WxShield/Download ... tocols.pdf. I hope it can somebody. I used this article to implement receiving of data from Ambient Weather F007TH sensors.

thequickman
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Re: compatible 433Mhz USB transceivers?

Fri Feb 10, 2017 5:28 am

I know this is a little late in the game(and not usb....), and I haven't personally done any testing yet but I bought some HC-12s for a little project of mine.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/HC-12-3-2-5-5V- ... SwcLxYDCpA

Some people are getting good ranges with these, just adding a different antenna.

Good luck

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Re: compatible 433Mhz USB transceivers?

Sat Feb 11, 2017 11:31 pm

Use a $20 SDR dongle and grab a copy of RTL_433 from github. I've been logging my Ohio Scientific indoor/outdoor outdoor sensor's output for 6 months that way. I'll post the program I wrote to extract numeric values out of rtl_433's ASCII output. It's human readable but date/time is on one line and temperature is a few lines later. Also you may hear more than your own sensor.
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Homer-S
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Re: compatible 433Mhz USB transceivers?

Fri Jan 12, 2018 8:59 pm

Hello,

I know this threat is evry old but maybe soemone is still listen to it.

Did someone get this
4. USB-1100PA 433MHz Wireless RF Transceiver Module - White + Black
to communicate with its 433 MHz devices?

Thanks for every help

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