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Why not add?

Posted: Wed May 18, 2016 9:44 pm
by hootie
Why not add a commercial applications forum under this heading. Seems like there's a group of us who like to talk about commercial applications using the Pi, but allot of forum members don't think this is the place. I completely agree and disagree. I agree the way the board currently is setup, commercial apps don't fit well. If you just add a commercial applications forum under the Automation.... heading, we could satisfy everyone. No?

Re: Why not add?

Posted: Wed May 18, 2016 10:31 pm
by DirkS
No.
You would then need to add a 'commercial' subforum for just any section of this forum.
There are more than enough sections as it is.

Re: Why not add?

Posted: Wed May 18, 2016 11:10 pm
by hootie
Fair enough... then to those who get upset when someone posts something about a commercial product their working on using the Pi... stop complaining, and don't say this isn't the place for it.

Re: Why not add?

Posted: Thu May 19, 2016 6:07 am
by texy
hootie wrote:Fair enough... then to those who get upset when someone posts something about a commercial product their working on using the Pi... stop complaining, and don't say this isn't the place for it.
Where are people complaining - post links please.
Texy

Re: Why not add?

Posted: Thu May 19, 2016 10:06 am
by hootie
viewtopic.php?f=63&t=148544&start=25&p= ... ow#p977350

Third post, last sentence. This is not the only time I have seen someone question discussing commercial products on this board where people took exception

It was nothing but a suggestion. There would be no need to add it to every forum title. It would have been fine under Automation...

Allot of people use the Pi for commercial purposes... I honestly think having its own forum is a good idea.

Re: Why not add?

Posted: Thu May 19, 2016 10:26 am
by piglet
[pedant]
allot
allot əˈlɒt/ verb verb: allot; 3rd person present: allots; past tense: allotted; past participle: allotted; gerund or present participle: allotting. give or apportion (something) to someone.

I think you mean "a lot".
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I can't be the only person to just use the "new posts" to browse the forum. The segregation doesn't matter. You see all the new posts and if it looks interesting you can read it.

I see the complaints, but what's the point of complaining? If it's not something you want to read or can help with and have no comment on, don't.

Working out what sub-forums to have is a juggling act. The range of people with an interest in Raspberry Pi topics is wider than you'd normally see on a single forum. It ranges from young school children wanting to know how to plug in to a screen, through interested tinkerers like me with an interest in anything that's being discussed from teaching sessions to how to pick the right transistor, all the way professional expert electrical engineers wanting to know arcane information in relation to developing a commercial product.

"Keep it like it is and kick the trolls" gets my vote.

Re: Why not add?

Posted: Thu May 19, 2016 10:31 am
by texy
hootie wrote:viewtopic.php?f=63&t=148544&start=25&p= ... ow#p977350

Third post, last sentence. This is not the only time I have seen someone question discussing commercial products on this board where people took exception

It was nothing but a suggestion. There would be no need to add it to every forum title. It would have been fine under Automation...

Allot of people use the Pi for commercial purposes... I honestly think having its own forum is a good idea.
The only people who need worry about taking exception is the moderation team. Usually the only time the moderation team take exception when a commercial interest is involved is when they spam or 'hard sell'. I don't believe there is enough traffic or call for a separate forum.
Texy

Re: Why not add?

Posted: Thu May 19, 2016 10:45 am
by hootie
I would completely agree that hawking a product here would be out of bounds. Do I think people developing commercial products having their own forum would allow that very specific group to bounce ideas off each other, rather than the entire board be good? Well, I think it would save the rest of the board from seeing posts they consider trolling from having to look at them.

I personally love that word "trolling". It's used on this board allot. It makes me personally uncomfortable to post anything that apparently I should already know... and I have been called a "troll" for it. Maybe a "Troll forum"?

Re: Why not add?

Posted: Thu May 19, 2016 11:05 am
by jamesh
If someone is being 'trolly' or whinging about a commercial post, please report the post, and the mods will deal with. Easier than a new subforum, which will still be open to trolly or whingy posts anyway.

Re: Why not add?

Posted: Thu May 19, 2016 11:07 am
by fruitoftheloom
hootie wrote:viewtopic.php?f=63&t=148544&start=25&p= ... ow#p977350

Third post, last sentence. This is not the only time I have seen someone question discussing commercial products on this board where people took exception

It was nothing but a suggestion. There would be no need to add it to every forum title. It would have been fine under Automation...

Allot of people use the Pi for commercial purposes... I honestly think having its own forum is a good idea.
You are quoting a sentence taken out of context to the whole thread it was posted in.

The OP was almost asking for the RPT to fully support his ""product"" and in one response he even wrote "Bribe".


Therefore please can you find other examples which are more appropriate to your reason you feel a new section of forum should be created, I am always interested in innovation and Western Digital and Slice, to name 2 have to be applauded.

Re: Why not add?

Posted: Thu May 19, 2016 11:16 am
by hootie
No... it was NOT. I linked the thread, not your post. I pointed out in your particular post where you made a specific comment. And... I didn't say you were disrespectful, or argumentative, or anything else. You just stated your opinion that you didn't feel this was the place for a commercial product discussion. You have a right to your opinion. Yours is not the only one I have seen, but the latest. There was no intent to misquote you, take anything out of context, and I believe if you take a second to look that I linked the thread, there's no way I could have been trying to do anything but point out an example which I was asked by the moderator to do. I was not calling you out specifically, and definitely didn't take your words out of context. You clearly stated it was your opinion... which you have a right to .

And... in my original post in this thread I did not give examples. I was trying NOT to call attention to any particular post. The moderator asked me to give a link to an example. Your post was just the last one I read. And honestly, I respect your opinion. That's why I asked for a sub forum.

Re: Why not add?

Posted: Thu May 19, 2016 11:21 am
by fruitoftheloom
hootie wrote:No... it was NOT. I linked the thread, not your post. I pointed out in your particular post where you made a specific comment. And... I didn't say you were disrespectful, or argumentative, or anything else. You just stated your opinion that you didn't feel this was the place for a commercial product discussion. You have a right to your opinion. Yours is not the only one I have seen, but the latest. There was no intent to misquote you, take anything out of context, and I believe if you take a second to look that I linked the thread, there's no way I could have been trying to do anything but point out an example which I was asked by the moderator to do. I was not calling you out specifically, and definitely didn't take your words out of context. You clearly stated it was your opinion... which you have a right to .
I have added to my response and await further examples and therefore will have a better understanding of how I should respond in the future :shock:

Re: Why not add?

Posted: Thu May 19, 2016 11:26 am
by hootie
The idea of a sub forum has already been shot down.
I feel you are just looking for a confrontation, and I am not interested. Your post was just an example... if you want to look for more... be my guest.
I'm fine with the moderators decision.

Re: Why not add?

Posted: Thu May 19, 2016 11:28 am
by jamesh
What the heck is wrong with you people at the moment - a perfectly sensible thread, that ended up in this sort of rubbish.

FInal post, report any post that are trolly or whinging about commerciality.

Locking, remember the forum rules.