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Re: XBMC running on Raspberry Pi

Posted: Mon Jan 23, 2012 10:32 pm
by deaf cat
Only came across XBMC about 2 months ago and now this wonderful little RPi appears - Cool Stuff!!

Not knowing much about computers, with the Pi using ARM (guessing it's not Windows or Mac), is a usb sound card with windows/mac drivers going to have trouble working?

Cheers for any thoughts,

DC

Re: XBMC running on Raspberry Pi

Posted: Mon Jan 23, 2012 10:37 pm
by liamfraser280
Hi Deafcat. Take a look around in the FAQ and so on

The Rasbperry Pi will run Linux. So you need to check if your sound card is supported under Linux. Google should help you.

I can tell you now that windows or mac drivers wont work on it though.

Re: XBMC running on Raspberry Pi

Posted: Mon Jan 23, 2012 11:12 pm
by nichobb
Thanks frying_fish. I knew sab was python (didn"t know sickbeard was - only just discovered delights last week, don"t know why left it so long before installing). Until you put it so obviously I still had it in my head that it would be a difficult task because of the processor to recompile (think I"ll be adjusting head when start using).

Personally I don"t think I"ll be impacted by downlod speeds as I max out at 187 kbps on my free bt usenet account, (hence interest in low powered always on device). Memory wise sickbeard and sab consume about 33,000 kb each on my Windows device (I know oranges and raspberries but no better fruit to compare with) so will be fine till I open opera at 168,000 kb

The unpacking could be painful. The viewing of mkv, I fully expect to be diabolical even though other formats will be displayed with grace and ease (why I was thinking of handbrake), if I"m wrong it"ll be a nice surprise but will leave me working out conversions for tablet.

Re: XBMC running on Raspberry Pi

Posted: Mon Jan 23, 2012 11:37 pm
by deaf cat
Liam Fraser said:


Hi Deafcat. Take a look around in the FAQ and so on

The Rasbperry Pi will run Linux. So you need to check if your sound card is supported under Linux. Google should help you.

I can tell you now that windows or mac drivers wont work on it though.



Cheers Liam, had a little look around and it seems part of my cards functions are seen by ALSA (not sure what that is) which is good I think,  but the PMC bit of the card is not seen, the bit I was thinking of using.  So maybe I will look into it a bit more and see if it is possible for me to use the bits that ALSA can see.. 


Re: XBMC running on Raspberry Pi

Posted: Tue Jan 24, 2012 7:11 am
by Goggles2114
Out of curiosity, and the fact I only have a standard def CRT-TV to plug this thing into. How will the menu and such handle under lower resolution?

...And did anyone answer whether the differing plugins would potentially work or be an absolute no?

Re: XBMC running on Raspberry Pi

Posted: Tue Jan 24, 2012 7:26 am
by liamfraser280
deaf cat said:


Cheers Liam, had a little look around and it seems part of my cards functions are seen by ALSA (not sure what that is) which is good I think,  but the PMC bit of the card is not seen, the bit I was thinking of using.  So maybe I will look into it a bit more and see if it is possible for me to use the bits that ALSA can see.. 




Hi Deaf cat. If you are really lucky it might just work when you plug it in ALSA is advanced linux sound architecture and it is one of the sound frameworks that Linux uses. What is PMC?

Re: XBMC running on Raspberry Pi

Posted: Tue Jan 24, 2012 9:43 am
by frying_fish
nichobb said:


Thanks frying_fish. I knew sab was python (didn"t know sickbeard was - only just discovered delights last week, don"t know why left it so long before installing). Until you put it so obviously I still had it in my head that it would be a difficult task because of the processor to recompile (think I"ll be adjusting head when start using).

Personally I don"t think I"ll be impacted by downlod speeds as I max out at 187 kbps on my free bt usenet account, (hence interest in low powered always on device). Memory wise sickbeard and sab consume about 33,000 kb each on my Windows device (I know oranges and raspberries but no better fruit to compare with) so will be fine till I open opera at 168,000 kb

The unpacking could be painful. The viewing of mkv, I fully expect to be diabolical even though other formats will be displayed with grace and ease (why I was thinking of handbrake), if I"m wrong it"ll be a nice surprise but will leave me working out conversions for tablet.


Actually, the unpacking would be worse than the mkv playback, depending on what encoding the file is. If the file inside the mkv container is h.264 then it should be fine as that can be decoded in the GPU (from what I've read anyway).  It is the unpacking using up all the RAM and lots of writes to the SD card I would be concerned with (unless of course you hooked up a USB HDD and had that as the processing directory). Thankfully the use of python would be handy, but would have to remember to use python 2 not python 3 I think.

Re: XBMC running on Raspberry Pi

Posted: Tue Jan 24, 2012 11:01 am
by deaf cat
Liam Fraser said: Hi Deaf cat. If you are really lucky it might just work when you plug it in ALSA is advanced linux sound architecture and it is one of the sound frameworks that Linux uses. What is PMC?

Hiya Liam, Cheers, That would be lucky!   me and computers are not lucky

Will keep fingers crossed though

The usb card can pass though a digital sound signal S/PDIF.

S/PDIF can either carry 2 channels of not compressed sound (PMC)

Or, such things as Dolby Digital and DTS that are compressed enabling 5 or so channels to fit on the S/PDIF thing.

Hope that makes sence.

Re: XBMC running on Raspberry Pi

Posted: Tue Jan 24, 2012 11:11 am
by __Miguel_
Hmm, not to nitpick, but 2-channel uncompressed sound is usually labeled as PCM, not PMC

Miguel

Re: XBMC running on Raspberry Pi

Posted: Tue Jan 24, 2012 11:34 am
by deaf cat
Yep, nit pick away your totally right, sorry, my mistake.

Re: XBMC running on Raspberry Pi

Posted: Tue Jan 24, 2012 12:22 pm
by wildclover
deaf cat said:

Hiya Liam, Cheers, That would be lucky!   me and computers are not lucky
Will keep fingers crossed though

The usb card can pass though a digital sound signal S/PDIF.

S/PDIF can either carry 2 channels of not compressed sound (PMC)

Or, such things as Dolby Digital and DTS that are compressed enabling 5 or so channels to fit on the S/PDIF thing.

Hope that makes sence.


I use a Turtle Beach Audio Advantage Micro II card which is just a USB -> TOSlink lead. It works natively in Ubuntu and outputs stereo and 5.1 DTS, Dolby Digital and AAC (after a bit of configuring). I'm using kernel 3.x, which has now been compiled for the R-Pi, so I'm presuming that the lead will work just as well in Debian when the Pi is released. Unfortunately my TV downmixes everything from HDMI to stereo when it passes out of the optical connector on the TV, so I had to get a separate lead to watch my collection in 5.1!

Re: XBMC running on Raspberry Pi

Posted: Tue Jan 24, 2012 1:00 pm
by spudy12
Now this is amazing! I am going to be buying 3 or 4 of these baby's!

Well done to the XBMC Team and Raspberry PI

Re: XBMC running on Raspberry Pi

Posted: Tue Jan 24, 2012 1:47 pm
by __Miguel_
For you guys on the inside, how likely do you think it would be for an R-Pi-friendly release of XBMC to be available at launch date? It seems to be working right now...

Also, @spudy12, please don't hog all of them. The first production batch will be a 10000-unit run, AFAIK, which will probably be gone quite fast if everyone buys like 10 of them at a time. Which will not be that bad, since it shows how good the R-Pi is, and they'll make enough money to get another batch going, but these things have a 3-week lead time from the manufacturer, don't make the rest of us wait that long, OK?

Miguel

Re: XBMC running on Raspberry Pi

Posted: Tue Jan 24, 2012 1:51 pm
by spudy12
@Miguel Don't worry  I will be good and hopefully (if i can!) only get one of this batch!

Really excited for the release of this, have been following it since the start!







Re: XBMC running on Raspberry Pi

Posted: Tue Jan 24, 2012 2:51 pm
by liz
__Miguel_ said:


For you guys on the inside, how likely do you think it would be for an R-Pi-friendly release of XBMC to be available at launch date? It seems to be working right now...


We hope one will be available at launch - Eben seems pretty certain we'll have one, but as with everything, I have to be careful not to make any assurances in case something crops up!

Re: XBMC running on Raspberry Pi

Posted: Tue Jan 24, 2012 3:02 pm
by __Miguel_
Good news then, apparently.

*Goes back to patiently waiting for the magical update on the first page, informing the Pi is finally available for purchase. On that note, and totally OT, I do hope bank transfer is available as payment method, since I don't have a credit card...*

Miguel

Re: XBMC running on Raspberry Pi

Posted: Tue Jan 24, 2012 5:51 pm
by deaf cat
wildclover said: I use a Turtle Beach Audio Advantage Micro II card which is just a USB -> TOSlink lead. It works natively in Ubuntu and outputs stereo and 5.1 DTS, Dolby Digital and AAC (after a bit of configuring). I'm using kernel 3.x, which has now been compiled for the R-Pi, so I'm presuming that the lead will work just as well in Debian when the Pi is released. Unfortunately my TV downmixes everything from HDMI to stereo when it passes out of the optical connector on the TV, so I had to get a separate lead to watch my collection in 5.1!

Good To Know! Cheers

Re: XBMC running on Raspberry Pi

Posted: Fri Feb 24, 2012 6:13 pm
by kitchen
Hi,

I am new to raspberry Pi.  I have a boxee media player.  I am not familiar with XBMC.  I have read though all the post and am impressed with this.

I have a question,  is there a remote to control to control the xbmc once installed?

Thanks

Re: XBMC running on Raspberry Pi

Posted: Fri Feb 24, 2012 6:19 pm
by milhouse
kitchen said:


Hi,

I am new to raspberry Pi.  I have a boxee media player.  I am not familiar with XBMC.  I have read though all the post and am impressed with this.

I have a question,  is there a remote to control to control the xbmc once installed?

Thanks



No, that will be extra - you'll need an IR USB receiver and Media Center remote control, about £13 from eBay or - for zero cost - you might be able to control XBMC with your TV remote control using the HDMI CEC protocol if this gets implemented and supports your TV etc.

Re: XBMC running on Raspberry Pi

Posted: Fri Feb 24, 2012 6:20 pm
by S0litaire
I use my Android Mobile to control my XBMC install.

But you should be able to connect an IR receiver to the board and use a compatible Remote control it.

http://wiki.xbmc.org/index.php.....ol_reviews

Re: XBMC running on Raspberry Pi

Posted: Fri Feb 24, 2012 7:21 pm
by migwell2
kitchen said:


Hi,

I am new to raspberry Pi.  I have a boxee media player.  I am not familiar with XBMC.  I have read though all the post and am impressed with this.

I have a question,  is there a remote to control to control the xbmc once installed?

Thanks


Hi, maybe the best solution is the pulse eight adapter that allow use your tv remote to control XBMC with HDMI CEC protocol.

Re: XBMC running on Raspberry Pi

Posted: Fri Feb 24, 2012 7:27 pm
by milhouse
migwell2 said:

Hi, maybe the best solution is the pulse eight adapter that allow use your tv remote to control XBMC with HDMI CEC protocol.

Not necessary to purchase the Pulse Eight, at least not for XBMC on the Pi as the Pi includes the HDMI CEC support that is missing from most x86 GPUs (hence the existence of the Pulse Eight).

Re: XBMC running on Raspberry Pi

Posted: Fri Feb 24, 2012 7:40 pm
by deaf cat
xbmc constallation ipod app would that work too as a remote ?

Re: XBMC running on Raspberry Pi

Posted: Fri Feb 24, 2012 8:00 pm
by __Miguel_
XBMC comes with a standard web-based remote, so you only really need to activate the option, set the password, and point to the XMBC SMB name or IP address and you should be good to go.

There are also different web-based addons available, some of them tailored for ip*d devices.

Or there are a number of apps that take advantage of the XBMC remote connection features, only wrap them in a different skin.

In either case, though, you'll most definitely find something that will suit you.

Miguel

Re: XBMC running on Raspberry Pi

Posted: Fri Feb 24, 2012 8:20 pm
by drgeoff
milhouse said:

- you might be able to control XBMC with your TV remote control using the HDMI CEC protocol if this gets implemented and supports your TV etc.

That last bit is the wrong way round.  Implementation of CEC in a product is optional.  The TV manufacturer can leave it out.